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Comment Re:think globally (Score 1) 203

I didn't say we borrowed 80 million. NML bought the DEFAULTED bonds for 80 million. They bought worthless papers, from someone with terrible credit. And they sued, to collect 100% payment.

That's NOT how it works, man. On one hand, you have the "free market" buying and selling, and on the other hand, you have a judge ruling on the price of bonds. WTF? Let's put it another way: Why should Argentina pay a lot more interest than, say, Germany? Because there's a chance that Argentina won't pay? Obviously not. Since a judge can order you to pay in full.

As for Repsol, Argentina has paid for it already. The clown we have for minister of economy said, at one point, "Repsol won't receive a single cent". Then he, himself, negotiated something like a payment of 6 billion dollars for it in bonds (when the valuation was estimated in 5 billion). This was criticized because he overpaid. They did this to allow Repsol to sell the 6 billion in bonds for an estimated market value of 5 billion. (In my opinion, Argentina should have paid Repsol what repsol paid to the Argentinian government in the 90s for YPF: One Dollar. In fact, make it 10. Make it 100. Hell, let's make it 1 million dollars - man, that's a great return: pay 1 dollar, do nothing, then get paid 1 million 10 years later!)

The problem with Repsol is a lot deeper and it's only part of the problems with private investment in Argentina. Especially in the privatization business that happened in the early 90s. Argentina recently "found" an oil field, Vaca Muerta. I say "found" because it was known about for decades. In all these years, Repsol never bothered to exploit it. They simply used the existing wells and tapped the "easy" oil. Argentina's energy demands were higher than that so we import a lot of fuel.

Another case is electricity. In Buenos Aires, Edenor and Edesur exploited the already existing grid. They did not invest anything in over 20 years. Last summer there was a blackout that left a neighborhood without electricity for over a week. Edenor said it's because of Argentina's import restriction policies. The truth is, over 10 years ago, before any restrictions, a similar event happened. An entire neighborhood without power for over a week. So Edenor claims it's because the Argentine government has "frozen the cost of electricity". It's bullshit again, since Edenor/Edesur both receive several hundred million dollars a year in subsidies.

Then there's the telephone communications business. ENTel was split into two (Telecom+Telefonica) in 1990 or 91. For several years the situation didn't improve - at all. Until they started replacing the lines. Then it was great: service was excellent (in most cities), and it Just Worked. ENTel is remembered because of its terrible service (actually most of it was self-sabotage by their own employees who had been told if the company was privatized they'd get higher salaries - oops, most were fired).

Aerolineas Argentinas is the best example of this too. Aerolineas owned over 20 planes, 3 simulators, dozens of buildings across the world (in airports and outside), employeed thousands of people, and operated at a loss of about 1 million dollars a year. It was privatized. After 10 years of privatizations, Aerolineas leases all its planes, owns no simulators, liquidated most of their buildings, employs hundreds (not thousands) of people, and.. it operates at a loss of over 1 million dollars a year.

I could keep giving you examples here, but it's not needed. The pattern is pretty clear here: Own a privatized company, liquidate everything you can, and funnel ALL earnings outside the country. If the company needs some sort of investment, you only do it if it's critical (like Telecom, who could simply not operate because the lines were in terrible state), and all investments you do through a loan taken in Argentina and paid in Argentina (and then not pay it, take it to an extreme situation, and threaten to fire all employees. Then they go out to the street, protest, and the government takes care of the debt). You NEVER bring any money to Argentina.

And the best part: if the government tries to do anything about it, like jail executives or take over the company, you go to CNN, Financial Times, Bloomberg, etc. and whine that the "government of Argentina is trying to steal a private company".

The problem is a combination of both corruption from the Argentinian government that lets these characters do whatever they please with privatized companies, and the "free market" propaganda system, that makes you believe that Argentina is some sort of bully that wats to take over companies. And of course, it's only the propaganda system that says this sort of things. Or do you believe S&P or Fitch are so innocent they don't know how these companies (like Repsol and Marsans) operate in Argentina? Of course they know. But they shield themselves in the "technically what they're doing isn't illegal" argument.

Argentina is in serious need of investment right now. But what we need is real investors. People who want to start a business here AND make it grow - not some "get rich quick" type who wants to buy an already existing company to cash it out. The problem is no foreign investor ever wanted to do that. This is not new, it's not because of this government or the previous one. It's been like this since the early days, when England built a ton of infrastructure here (railroads mostly) to facilitate the transport of goods: Argentina supplied raw materials and England sold us manufactured stuff (England sold us BRICKS. Man, that's ridiculous). England was also clever (and shitty) enough to provide Brazil with a different rail gauge so there couldn't be trade between Brazil and Argentina.

So basically this country will never leave this situation. We have been like this for 200 years. This isn't going to change.

Comment Re:think globally (Score 1) 203

You're mixing everything up right now.

I DO NOT support my government. I didn't vote for this woman, and I suffer her retard policies every day (did you know we, Argentinians, can't freely buy foreign currency anymore? Did you know that we can't even RECEIVE MORE THAN TWO PACKAGES FROM ABROAD A YEAR?).

That said: I support what the government is saying. We're not in a "voluntary" default. The truth is that NML capital bought Argentina's debt for a mere 80 million dollars, and it's worth over 1 billion right now. The truth is that 92% of creditors accepted a restructuring: Argentina agreed to pay back 100% of capital AND 300% in interests. NONE of the people who entered the debt restructuring are losing money. So when you hear "Argentina is paying only 25%" that's twisted: we're paying 25% of the riduculously high rate we had to take money for, but we're paying back in full AND paying enough interest.

A 1000% return is too good to be true. And in this case it was.

NML capital sued. And the juge ruled we had to pay in full, right now. The problem is that if we do, there's another 20 billion more in debt we have to pay to the other holdouts. And also, if we pay any of them, the "pari passu" clause is triggered and argentina's debt restructuring is destroyed. We're back to square one, with a debt of over 200 billion dollars again.

You know why this is bullshit? Because this is NOT how it works anywhere else. If someone owes you and goes bankrupt, and if most other creditors agree with the restructuring, you're forced to accept it. In fact. the IMF wanted to make this true for all cases, but they were ignored. The UN passed a resolution about this (and guess who rejected it? Two countries, one of which was the US).

What also happened is that Argentina "was declared in default" even though we made the payments - except there was this slight problem: a US judge blocked the payments EVERYWHERE - even European citizens were affected by this. So we're in default because a US judge decided so. Not because we want to.

Want to make this more dirty? The "default insurance" was paid, and then it was decided that Argentina wasn't really truly "defaulted". So, thanks to this judge, a few people made a lot of money in a single day.

So yes, you don't really understand economics. Argentina's problems aren't caused by our unwilingness to pay. Griesa could have "delayed" his ruling by just 6 months and Argentina would have been able to negotiate with NML. As things stand, there's not much we can do. If we "negotiate" anything with NML, the whole restructuring thing goes to hell. Now, why did Griesa rule now? Why couldn't he wait? Why didn't Obama stand up for Argentina after he said he would? (because he's afraid of Paul Singer)

Yes, we get into dirty US Foreign policy right now. Argentina is doing something the US doesn't like, so the US uses their economic resources to tame us. Try and see the world with a more cynical eye and you'll see that everything isn't that fair, and that the US doesn't play nice.

I have no idea what you mean by "stealing foreign assets".

And as for kickstarter: they only work with 10 countries. Indiegogo works in over 200 countries. The whole point of my original comment was that KICKSTARTER doesn't want to work with US & buddies. You made it all about debt and all other irrelevant bullshit.

Comment Re:I'll just let my sig do the talking (Score 1) 478

But at least on the federal level, defense is one of the few enumerated responsibilities of the Federal Govt.

There is nothing in there that says for them to deal with healthcare.

Sure, yes. Those words, man, are written in stone. No way to change those laws.

And if it's in the constitution.. ohh wow - that's untouchable. We need a constitutional reform to change the slightest comma in the constitution.

Oh - wait. I was thinking of my country's constitution! We're talking the US constitution! The one that can be modified without a reform, simply with an ammendment.

Wow.

Comment Re:I'll just let my sig do the talking (Score 1) 478

Ah hah! but that's communist!

When the government does something with its money, it's COMMUNISM. If the government builds a road, that's communism for you. If they build a hospital - a PUBLIC HOSPITAL?? DAMN COMMUNIST GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY.

Everything should be privatized. Absolutely everything. Schools, hospitals, roads. It's more efficient that way. And all laws should be abolished as well. In fact: there should be NO TAXES and NO GOVERNMENT. Any person should be able to do whatever they please with their money.

Now, if you funnel the money through the military, that's great. It's not communism if it's military.

Comment Re:think globally (Score 1) 203

"I'll believe it when I see it".

And, no, "other countries" being "The nice part of the EU" is still bullshit.

When I see someone from India, Bangladesh or Cambodia being able to raise money I'll believe it.

But... you know... those people are dark skinned... there is a high chance that they'll be scammers. Better stick to the white part of the world where everyone are good citizens and obey the rules.

Comment Re:How to refund if the money's gone? (Score 2) 203

I think the whole concept is plain bullshit.

You're risking your money. Period.

There should be no guarantee that, if the project fails, your money will be returned. What the hell? That's not how real life works. Ask any of the dot-com investors if they got any of their money back.

How is this any different from eBay where you could order an iPhone 6 PLUS, and get a brick in a box instead. And there's nothing you can do about it.

Comment think globally (Score 1, Troll) 203

Hey Kickstarter,
When are you going to make your service available worldwide? Why is your service only available for the US & allies?
You've been in the game for years and you haven't even tried to go outside.

I refuse to support projects based on this bullshit policy. When I see that someone in a developing country actually has a chance to raise funds for his invention I'll believe you. But when I see that someone can play with the system and raise funds for "potato salad" just for being a US citizen, well, FUCK YOU kickstarter.

Like all your web 2.0 friends: You suck.

Comment Re:So-to-speak legal (Score 1) 418

Hmm... I have this feeling we have a verbal contract for me to help you die. It's just that you can't deny it, since you're, you know... dead. This should definitely be a written and notaried contract.

A written, notaried contract doesn't say what the dead party's mood was at the time. It doesn't say if I bullied and blackmailed her for years and and broke her will. If I fucked up her mind so badly that she "freely" agreed to sign said contract.
If there are no laws on how a contract should be written, there will be no "notaries" to verify it, and there will be no legal framework to say that neither party can be drunk, or that a psychiatric test should be performed to prove that both parties are sane.
Government exists because evil people exist, and can do harm. It's there to protect us from these people. But us, the "good citizens", shouldn't let that good people get in government positions. The problem is: we don't care. And the evil people get in charge... and we all lose.

Comment Re:So-to-speak legal (Score 5, Funny) 418

Oh, you're an idiot. You don't understand. It's not the Government God Damn Business to interfere on what I do!!! Any person should be allowed to engage into any sort of transaction with anyone else! It's a private contract between two entities!
If I want to pay my neighbor for mowing my lawn, why should the government get in the middle?
If I want to buy from comcast, I should have the right to do it if I please! I also have a right to terminate said contract whenever I please, and I can negotiate the price too.
If my neighbor wishes to die but she cannot kill herself, I could kill her provided we both agreed to!! It's our LIBERTARIAN RIGHT! If the cops find her dead, I should NOT be investigated. All I need to do is explain that we both had a VERBAL CONTRACT and that should be enough!
Cops shouldn't exist! Government shouldn't exist! I am a person and I should have the right to do anything I please with anyone, if we both wanted to.
Jesus. I don't understand the "extreme" libertarians like that. What will they do once they find out you can't really have a fair contract against a corporation (or anyone else) if there aren't laws or an arbitration system AKA "the judiciary system"?
Ah yes: The Free Market Will Solve All Those Issues®
(oopsie, no ® there. There's no government to ®)

Comment Re:Government doesn't get it. (Score 1) 184

To ALLY countries!

Argentina isn't an ally of the US. And, of course, that means Argentina is an enemy of the US. The US has "allies" and several levels of enemies. The US doesn't have "neutral" relationships with any country. Either you do what they say or they pretend not to care, but screw you later on.

Assange says Argentina's problem with holdouts is because of our "agreement" with Iran (to investigate the bombing of AMIA). Initially the US said they would support Argentina's cause, but now they've changed completely and trying to push us into bankruptcy.

You can send as many Teslas as you like to the UK or Canada. To south america? No chance. Too dangerous. These jungle monkeys are actually smart and they might use this to build an ICBM. (See: Condor project. Argentina's missile, shut down by US pressures).

Comment Re:Government doesn't get it. (Score 1) 184

Try Lazarus Form Recovery.

As for "guerrilla" shows, that's pretty much how it works. Other countries resort to "content", but American shows can have content AND be super-productions (HBO shows), so it's hard to compete.

Argentina is able to give you a high profile movie, for example. See "The secret in their eyes" by Juan Jose Campanella. Fantastic movie, and rare as it had VFX and shots from an helicopter, something rarely seen in low budget stuff like what we're used to. (Disclaimer: Campanella worked in Hollywood. He directed several "House" episodes. So he does things "hollywood style")

Governments offer subsidies to local productions but it's still a hard sell.

The only way to really regulate is being in a position of power AND pass laws. It's worked great for Canada: they require a certain quota of local production and they've "forced" many US TV shows to be shot there. Also, they managed to sneak canadian actors into US shows too (since Canada is a large enough market for US to care about pleasing them).

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