On my parents' kitchen table . . .

Since I was around, it had to be sometime before mid-86 (likely summer 85. I think the family gatherings were July).

A cousin who worked for HP came by with a prototype (?) of a 68000 Unix luggable. It showed off by drawing a wire frame of the space shuttle and then,I believe, solidifying it, at an impressive speed for the time . . . (today, it would be done between frames, along with a couple of navies shooting at it . . .)

hawk

I don't care *how* it flies so long as I can have it chase anything larger than a hummingbird, yet smaller than a cat, that moves.

@*#(*^% air rats eating my seeds, berries, and other fruit. Go at them while emitting raptor cries . . .

hawk

Better yet, hire a lawyer without MPD and follow his advice (or "her," if the specific lawyer is female).

Speaking as a lawyer, never, EVER higher a lawyer that can be referred to in the plural . . . :)

hawk, esq.

Why do you think I have dochawk.org, rather than dochawk.com?

I checked for dochawk.com. Available. Went to register the next day, and gone. Scratched my head.

Then I checked dochawk.net. Waffled a day, and it was gone.

So I just registered dochawk.org.

And then the bit elsewhere where they double-billed and held data hostge . . .

hawk

Don't forget double-billing your account each month, which triggers your credit card company to auto-cancel the fraudulent, err, second charge, and using *that* to cancel you for non-payment, while continuing to charge you each month, and demanding either a year's service contract or $100 to recover your backup . . .

not that they pulled that on me . . .

hawk

>But when I get on a bus, i know where its going.
>These buses may decide my destination is not
>worthwhile, and take me far from where I expected.

Actually, that's not it.

They've figured out that you're *wrong* about where you want to go, and will take you to the *right* place.

So welcome your new bus overlords . . .

hawk

Your made up and arbitrary rules will clearly solve a problem which you have not adequately described.

Sitting on a closed toilet seat in a college bathroom where someone decided to install the Cisco router I needed to do unnatural things to with a Perl script.

Min

Agreed, as a DC attendee I'd give it a miss, and if there wasn't anything on that was more interesting in the slot use it to fulfill some of the 3-2-1 rule of attending Defcon. The talk is an interesting read, and there are other confs I've attended where it would be a fit, but DC isn't it.

I think the review committee made the right call on this one.

Min

You kidding? They'd be terrible at tech support! They think the internet is made of tubes forchrissake!

Min

err, 25 years overdue . . .

You can't count to five!
So then why do i bother?
Best your name not known . . .

hawk

This is more than 45 years overdue. Apple was in position to dominate this market two generations*before* you start.

The Mac IIfx had slave processors that were essentially a 6502 with a bunch of other stuff on the chip that could handle the AppleTalk network.

AppleTalk could be run over the second pair of the home phone wiring.

All they needed to do was sell the $10 chip to go into anything that someone would want to control in the home . . .

At the time, Apple would have gone broke selling a $100,000 Rolls Royce they built for $1k by insisting on building the garage to go with it . . .

hawk

Beos fails to sel
Asks too much for Apple sale
now just open source

>Ads slow down our computers,

I suppose it's nearly 20 years ago now . . .

On a 486, which was still respectable though not top of the line at the tie, I had two full pages open (large monitor for the time), and both hit ad-heavy pages.

It brought the machine to its knees.

I installed junkbuster.

To this day, I don't block ads. But I'm downright aggressive with anything that blinks (or moves, or scrolls, or . . .), including "content"

hawk