[paraphrase]You're wrong because I can name off n bad experiences[/paraphrase]
I'll actually meet you on MW4, but it is a general trend for games coming of of MS's game studio to not work on wine. As for all your other games, sorry you've had bad experiences Dungeon Seige has a platinum rating, Alpa Centari a garbage rating, and civ 2 a silver rating. The point is, my parent said it was impossible to do any games better than 10 fps, and I called BS on that. I went further to say that many mainstream games work great. To which you grudgingly reply "oh yea? well... civ 2 doesn't work". I'll leave that there.
[paraphrase]CD check drm doesn't work well.[/paraphrase]
the is simply not true for all games; some yes, most, not at all. TF2/source games, not at all. This issue simply doesn't hold water.
[paraphrase]Hah.. you're so wrong about mac stuff being hard, it's all unix and psoix and c workds and opengl works and yadda yadda yadda[/paraphrase]
Okay smart ass, then you tell me how to run this itunes.dmg installer. I glossed over the topic of it being slightly complicated (I admitted it in the post). But if you want to break it down, yes you can compile anything on linux, man if you're willing this much effort into compiling obj-c mac stuff on linux, yet you complain about wine difficulties? Sorry but your counter argument right here tells me you don't know what you're talking about, great that you laid the acronym penis measurement on me, maybe if I had more in my op I'd not have been so wrong?
[paraphrase]On a final note: shut up guy on the internet, you don't know what you're talking about.[/paraphrase]
There is always this chance when you take up arguments with random people online. I could not know what the fuck I'm talking about, in fact everything before, imagine I made it up. Personally I think it's more likely you don't actually know as much as you seem to think you do.
[predicts]I'm a system admin for unix, veteran of n years, shut up kid[/predicts]
I'm sorry, but that gives you no authority on running modern games on linux with wine... None at all. Okay, you have about the same authority on the subject as random guy on the internet. I personally have a beef with self proclaimed 'unix sys admins' because my father in law is one... and I have to deal with his handycap (he thinks he knows what he's talking about) all the time; thus making me an expert on unix sys admins.
Let's be more specific then: have fun running any game from the last ten years at anything better than 10 seconds per frame..
Okay Mr. Expert, I call bullshit. Games that run beautifully (some needing more work than others based on hardware and lack of support channels, but that's not saying it cannot be done):
In fact.. I can't think of a game that I actually want to play, that doesn't run on linux (given enough work). I'm not saying that it is super easy to make all these work, but a high and mighty sys admin should see this as child's play; and only be, slightly, complicated to the neophyte convert. So once again, no better that 10 fps... Bullshit. Go eat a dick, and come back when you've shaved that neckbeard.
To everyone else: gaming is far from perfect but it is not this absolute paradigm shift that certain people make it out to be. All it takes is -minimal- support from developers (more if the studio is deeply tied to
After typing out this long post, I see that this is initially in reply to 'virtual' environments, the posts being modded down, and your's being 5: insightful (thereby not being hidden). I agree, virtual environments for gaming
As more games move to working on mac and windows, we'll see a larger shift in games that work well in linux (not because mac apps are easy to run in linux, that's not actually true; It's easier to run windows applications than it is mac applications applications. The reasons are slightly more complicated; Just take my opinion, as a guy on the internet, and regard it as fact.). Steam is the first big -potential- example, The fact of the matter is that the industry thinks linux support is super hard, when it's not as hard as they think it is. (it's comparable to the average man running 2-3 miles every day, it's really not hard at all, you just have to get up and do it). And with companies now actually considering mac versions, linux versions look much much easier.
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