Fair enough

SecureSocket sslSocket = new SSLSocket(blah);
List linklist = new List();
Tree tree = new Tree();

So how is it not for the lazy programmer?

I never said or implied that I have any problem with memory management or security. The problems come when languages like Java, C++ or etc... try to insert protections for you without knowing exactly how you want the protection to work. Java also extracts the programmer way to far away from the hardware, which is essential for any good developer, who doesn't work in web land.

Well I'm an embedded system developer and I can tell that compared to C, Java gives you everything and the kitchen sink.

Java is what a lazy developer uses to get free security and free memory protection, a child could write a business application in Java and have it secure. To me that doesn't sounds like a good language as much as it does a language for lazy programmers, which should loose it a few points.

It's a pretty good list but my only question is how on earth did Java beat out C. Java is a decent language for a lot of different areas but doesn't come to the table in any one area and own the hill. On the other hand C is the king of the embedded world, Operating System world ( such as kernels ) and can still rock it on the desktop with C++ and C#. If C and Java switched places then it would be prefect, until that happens I can't really agree with it.

Great so now I can get a smart watch that is 1mm thinner and twice the price and one piece of aluminum, big deal!

It is a two side issue, I mean on one hand drivers need to pay attention, there is no excuse for a driver to not know what is going on. Now on the other hand people need to pay attention when they cross the street, you can be on your phone well you walk down the side walk but when you're ready to cross the street, look up, look both ways and make sure it's safe.

Oh I know that one! I live in Toronto and the standard is that at least 3 cards will enter and turn on a red light.

Drivers need to pay attention to the road, there is no excuse for hitting a pedestrian in a cross walk or for a car to hit car at a cross walk. Drivers need to grow up, pay attention and stop blaming everything but the lack of driving ability.

Haha well if you have to get an engineering degree to figure that out then switch jobs :P

I would even go as far to saw a basic / simple firmware.

LMAO +10 funny! That is such a wicked idea that it's worth doing for the shear stupidity and hilarity or it.

I've designed my watch with the capability of expansion, so if you really wanted to write a module to do that you could.

Fair enough but I don't think comparing electronically illiterate kids to engineers in fair. This actually backs on to the lack of quality of the school system but I'm going to not even touch that one.

I'd be happy to send you the layout, I'm open sourcing it when I'm done.