His point was wrong. It should have read:

"Cockpit video camera will not help determine the cause of any crashes. Including this one."

All that will happen is that you'll see them on the news.

No. Thanks.

Bingo. Follow the money.

Is this still true if you're flying over the pacific ocean at 500 miles an hour? Or are you talking about your cable bill?

How come? Do they turn blue or something? I bet he looked perfectly calm and controlled while he set the autopilot to "crash into the ground" mode.

It sounds to me, from reading about the incident, that the locked door was less important than the fact that you can't intimidate a planeful of people by threatening them with death aboard a plane anymore. The passengers and crew jumped the hijackers, and that was the end of that. A regular old door that could be opened from the outside with a code would have worked out just the same.

Is it? Why? I would have thought that the existing data is plenty, and that generally speaking airline disasters are not caused by what the interior of the cockpit looks like. How many cameras would you need? Shouldn't you have video feeds from the engines too? Perhaps high frame rate ones, so that we can see what really happened?

Additionally, already the flight data audio recordings are gruesome enough. Can you imagine the videos?

Good Lord. That would work out just great. Solution to any problem of unrest of any form - Guns!

Judging by the moderation on your comment, apparently not.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, in any reasonable forum, would be the end of the debate.

However, this is the internet. So. Carry on.

You mean, like a sign over the door saying "whites only"? Is that what you mean?

This is why:

Is backwards. Ideally no-one would be refused service for any reason, whereas realistically one might be refused service because one is not behaving ideally. In an ideal world, no-one gets turned away.

Thanks. It seems to be going pretty well so far.

Michael Conway's sure got a kickass tan.

I wish this idea would die. The KKK Grand Wizard probably didn't really choose to be a hateful racist, it's probably a combination of an extremely poor upbringing (being taught to hate at an early age is going to be hard to reason your way out of), and poor intellectual character. A black man probably didn't choose to be black, but if a pill existed to change the color of your skin for personal reasons (hey! I want to be blue!) then one should be free to take it. And if one wants to choose to sleep with members of the same sex, then one should also be free to do so. Religion, of course, is almost always a choice.

These categories are protected, not because they are not choices, but because we as a society have agreed that they should be. Because we've seen some of the things that happen if they are not, and we don't want to go back to that world. Except, it seems, Indianapolis does.

A very intelligent and insightful comment. What are they going to do? Ask you for your gay card?

That's a pretty good question. The answer of course is that the laws on discrimination are fairly precisely written for a reason.

An organisation is not permitted to discriminate, either when hiring people or when doing business with them, on the basis of sexual orientation, gender or religion. Perhaps there are some other categories too. Whether or not these things are choices - some are, some aren't and some can be under various circumstances - is entirely and completely irrelevant. These are the protected categories enshrined in law, and signed into effect by your country's elected officials.

An organisation is permitted to implement things like dress codes (no KKK hoods...) and other rules about whether or not you are permitted in their establishment. The Klu Klux Klan is not a religion, and so it is not protected. End of conversation, and so no - you do not have to serve him.

It's little different to refusing to serve a guy who turns up naked, or shouting and screaming at your staff, or whatever. You can throw the guy out, and have the cops help you do it if you need them to do so.