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11-year-old Proves Locks Not So Secure 454

An anonymous reader writes "A new security column at Engadget details the new 'old' threat of bumping locks. The article goes on to describe and demonstrate an 11-year-old girl bypassing a standard 5-pin lock at a recent DefCon Hacker Convention. The girl had no prior experience and didn't even understand the theory she was applying. Scary!"
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11-year-old Proves Locks Not So Secure

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  • pen lock picking (Score:5, Interesting)

    by legoburner ( 702695 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @06:53PM (#15974220) Homepage Journal
    Dont forget you can do the same with bike locks and a pen [wired.com]. It seems people find more obvious ways to break things every day.
  • by w33t ( 978574 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @06:58PM (#15974266) Homepage
    The concept of security is as much about perception as effectiveness.

    This article's enlightening example just drives deeper a little concept I recently heard called security theater, [wikipedia.org]

    Human psychology is certainly interesting - because on one hand we have people scared of box cutters, but on the other hand we drive 70mph mere feet away from each other every day.

    Maybe it could be argued that security is primarily about perception.
  • by Brother Dysk ( 939885 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @07:24PM (#15974413)
    Insurance companies generally only honour your claim if there are signs of breaking and entering... A bumped lock will make it look like you left the door unlocked, and could lead to your insurance company not parting with the pennies... Scary.
  • Re:Great... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by NIK282000 ( 737852 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @07:31PM (#15974445) Homepage Journal
    Bumping seems like it could escalate if left unchecked any longer. Most locks will open to it and the only way to protect against it is to get rid of your old locks and replace them with a new one that is bump proof. When I first saw bumping (about a month ago) I wanted to try it. I picked up a 7pin lock and a triangular file. I filed the spare key into the sape of a bump key ( I pretty much eyeballed it ) and on the second wack of a screw driver handle the lock opened. Yet again the internet changes a mild nuisance into a campagn of fear.
  • Re:deadlocks (Score:2, Interesting)

    by taustin ( 171655 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @07:35PM (#15974462) Homepage Journal
    Hot robberies are more common in Europe than in the US, at least in part because gun ownership is rather more common in the US.
  • by Animaether ( 411575 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @08:00PM (#15974616) Journal
    Which leads me to believe that the manufacturer has some very false claims, as one of the claims is that it checks whether the finger actually has a pulse; which is something Jamie pondered how to replicate at one point. I suppose this would be for those cases where they chop a dead guy's finger off, or drag the whole body to the thing, etc. But they managed to open that lock with a b/w laserjet (I think) print-out that was wetted a bit. No pulse.

    Even funnier is that they had more trouble bypassing the cheapo USB fingertip reader.. it only finally gave in to the most sophisticated of their duplications.
  • Re:pen lock picking (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Brother Dysk ( 939885 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @08:10PM (#15974671)
    Now that pesky teenage kid the neighbours can't keep control of runs away with your wife's diamonds and your priceless coin collection when you head off to visit some friends for the weekend. No proof of break-in, no valid insurance claim. Why? Because now that kid knows just how easy it is. He's not determined, just an opportunist, and now he has the knowledge of a hell of a lot of opportunities, right next door.
  • by Kope ( 11702 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @08:14PM (#15974694)
    The average person locks their front door and goes to bed feeling secure.

    They also probably have several windows, glass patio doors, and the like at easy-access level around their home. Most don't have bars on them.

    Even those that do have bars probably live in framed out housing, where going through a wall is a trivial feat for a determened intruder with a simple sledgehammer.

    But the reality is that locks are deamed necessary because they keep out the casual intruder. The person who will enter only if there is not the most minimal level of effort required to do so.

    Beyond that, they are not a security device. They serve that one, minimal function well, but that's all they do.

    For instances where a lock is actually protecting something of value, it is usually only one aspect of a much more sophisticated security system. In those instances, the lock serves as an authentication device "this person has a key, therefore they are authorized," and could just as easily be replaced by any other type of authentication system. As again, it can't provide protection on it's own.

    That's something that any good locksmith will tell you -- if they can install it, they can bypass it. And so can any other person with access to the right tools and knowledge.

  • Re:Great... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by identity0 ( 77976 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @08:17PM (#15974704) Journal
    That reminds me of the time when I was her age, when my babysitter locked herself out of her car and I was able to open the trunk just by jiggling my fingernail in the lock. I'm trying to remember what kind of car it was, some kind of Japanese hatchback in the 80's...

    Cheap house interior locks could also be picked by me in that manner. I don't think they're meant to keep out more than a curious ten-year old, but they didn't do that, even :)
  • Re:Great... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by EvanED ( 569694 ) <{evaned} {at} {gmail.com}> on Thursday August 24, 2006 @08:45PM (#15974805)
    Um, which is [one reason] why we have to worry more. More people know about it. (Though I don't really know how widespread the knowledge is. For all I know it could be confined to geeks still.) When I saw a video about it some time ago I thought that if it is anywhere as close to as easy as they make it out to be, I can't imagine why intruders bother to break windows, locks, etc. to get inside places, other than that they don't know this technique. And yet the above happens. My conclusion then is that the simplest explanation is that they don't know this technique.

    The second possible reason is that perhaps you feel that it has *always* been something to worry about, but you didn't know better before recently.
  • Re:Great... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by badasscat ( 563442 ) <basscadet75@@@yahoo...com> on Thursday August 24, 2006 @09:19PM (#15974942)
    Um, which is [one reason] why we have to worry more. More people know about it.

    Oh please. Has anybody ever put complete blind faith in the fact that they have locks on their doors as a guarantee that robbers can never get in to their house?

    There is a lot of fear-mongering going on right now about this technique (and this is the second article posted on Slashdot about it in the past couple weeks). But all of this misses the fundamental point: locks have never been enough to keep thieves out.

    What is generally enough to keep thieves out is a) basic human morality, and b) the law. Otherwise we'd all be getting robbed every single night - after all, most of us live within earshot of hundreds of other human beings.

    Now, if this technique has suddenly caused you to lose faith in both of those things, then I don't know what to tell you - most people don't rest their entire faith in humanity on the sanctity of a door lock. And if you didn't have faith in those things before, then why did you think a lock was going to protect you in the first place? I would think a loaded shotgun under your pillow would be more your style.

    The bottom line is this. If you've been robbed before, your locks didn't do you a hell of a lot of good even before this. And if you haven't been robbed before, there's no more chance that you will now. Because the reason you haven't been robbed isn't because thieves didn't think they could get past your door lock - there are a myriad of ways to get into a house for someone that wants to. The reason you haven't been robbed is because the law forbids it and basic human decency says people shouldn't do it.

    Yes, there are thieves out there, and I'm not saying you shouldn't bother to have locks - if for no other reason than to keep snooping mailmen or nosy neighbors out. But knowing how to bump and actually breaking into a house are two totally different things. And unlike "script kiddies", breaking and entering is a crime that's taken very seriously - it is usually a felony - and the physical evidence is usually easy enough to trace, especially for an inexperienced thief.
  • by C0R1D4N ( 970153 ) on Thursday August 24, 2006 @09:57PM (#15975108)
    Do 11 year old girls frequently wander into Hacker conventions with no prior experience or idea of how to hack and start picking locks?
  • Interesting... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 24, 2006 @11:03PM (#15975367)
    It's been a while since I've thought about defeating locks. The first time was in high-school in 1991 when I used to pick the lock to the filing cabinet in the main computer lab.
    I'm not sure if the technique is similar to the one being described here, but what I used to do was insert a file --- or even a bent paperclip --- and "jiggle" it until all of the pins had cleared the the shear line.
    At that point, the lock opened. I did the same to my friend's dad's RVs that he had at a campsite. The idea was to jiggle the pins while putting pressure
    on the plug so that when one pin had cleared the shearing point its edge would get caught on the plug and not be able to move downward again. After enough jiggling, all of the pins would get bound up in the same
    manner and the lock would eventually open.
    A few years ago someone had entered my apartment and taken my bookbag. Granted, I had left the lock unlocked since I was home and awake. It had never crossed my mind that someone would enter
    my apartment while I was home and wide awake. With a "That does it!" attitude I then bought some hardware (electronic keypad, LCD display, miscellaneous electronics components, etc.) and built my own Linux-powered security
    system that required a key code in order to unlock the door. It featured an intrusion detection and alarm system, sentry light, automatic lock-out, and a TCP/IP-based paging/doorbell system. It worked beautifully during the time that I
    had it running. I no longer needed to fumble with keys, which was especially nice when coming home with my arms full of groceries.

    I'm inspired again to try picking a few locks. Maybe one of these days.
  • by ScooterBill ( 599835 ) * on Thursday August 24, 2006 @11:13PM (#15975429)
    We have three bigs dogs. Unlike a lock, they won't let anyone in who isn't authorized. Also, most burglars will move on to the next house if they think they'll have to deal with an unfriendly dog. I'm sure there are ways around dogs but it's a good deterent.
  • by brumby ( 93242 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @12:29AM (#15975793)

    The thing that is most scary about this attack is that it leaves no trace of the crime, unlike a broken window. This means that some unfortunate people won't be able to convince their insurance company to pay up because there is no evidence of forced entry. The insurance company will try to claim that you forgot to lock your door and refuse to pay up.

    Or worse. In my part of the world, we've recently had a lot of restrictions taken off gambling laws. So a lot of people were getting into trouble, quietly selling stuff, them claiming to have been robbed. End result, you'd better have convincing evidence of a burglary now, or you'll find your insurance company having you charged with fraud.

  • Ahh but (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Sycraft-fu ( 314770 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @01:00AM (#15975935)
    Medeco uses special keys, and isn't available from just anywhere. So you've got to get a lock from the same dealer as your target, or at least a dealer that gets a key with the same sidebar code. They aren't consistent. For example we use Medeco locks at work (we are actually licensed by Medeco and have our own lock shop for campus) and I also have one at home that I bought form a local dealer. The keys, though the same shape, size and appearance, are not at all interchangeable. They won't even go in the lock at all.

    So, assuming you get a lock with the correct key design, you then have an additional task. Medeco keys are biaxial, meaning they aren't just cut along the vertical. The pins must be lifted and rotated to open. The rotation is achieved by the correct horizontal angle of the cut. Without that, you can't move the pins. So one you have the correct design of key, you have to cut the correct angles in first before making a bump key. If not, you can't bump anything since the pins won't move.

    Finally, you have to hope it's an older one, because with the newer sidebar interface, that doesn't work at all.

    Given that the point of bumping is simple entry with minimal tools or experience, that doesn't sound at all practical or simple, which is my point. This "all locks are a joke" is oversimplified bragging. No, they aren't. Many, perhaps even most locks are a joke but there are some real good ones out there that are a real bitch to deal with.

    Read the PDF linked from the article if you want some more info, it's fairly complete.
  • Re:Great... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dcturner ( 455180 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @02:21AM (#15976158)

    However, each layer of security, the locks, the security system, and the safe, adds a deterrant.

    I have a friend whose parents' house has every security system I can think of. Big spiky locked gates, CCTV, the works. They get burgled more frequently than any other house on their street: it looks a lot like they have things worth protecting, and things worth protecting are worth stealing. Security != deterrant always.

  • Re:Great... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Keruo ( 771880 ) * on Friday August 25, 2006 @05:00AM (#15976534)
    Don't use abloy classic. There's tool called "wiggler"(rough translation) which can be used to pick abloy classic locks and it doesn't leave traces either. I'm not completely sure on the principle of how the device works, but I'm assuming it has somekind of slot decoder which allows reading the key sequence in the rotary discs, and then copying new key with matching rotary set. The device won't work against modern abloy locks like exec and protec.
  • Re:Great... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by embracethenerdwithin ( 989333 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @08:52AM (#15977272)
    If breaking windows doesn't set off the car alarm, then why does it go off when I bump into the car in the parking lot. Car alarms are generally more sensitive than you realize, my dad has an old classic we cruise around in that has a really loud engine. It's not uncommon for us to set off peoples car alarms just by driving by.


    I think the reason people break car windows is it's easy.

    1. Find Brick, rock, bat, bottle,other blut object
    2. Smash windows with said object
    3. Steal Stuff
    4. Run


    Also, if someone wants to rip a hole in my hous'es dry wall they can have fun. I live in an all brick house, and I think the drilling/cutting required with power tools will wake someone(probably the whole neighborhood).

    I really think you overesitmate "junkies". Most of them just throw a brick through the window. When was the last time you heard of a house getting robbed by cutting down the fence, and tearing a person sized hole in the wall. All my neighbors who have been robbed were bricked.

    Someone can always get in if they truly want to, but if all that is truly worthless to you, why don't you leave your money in a paper bag on the porch? I mean after all, the doors, locks, security systems, fences and safes are useless right? So, just leave all your valuables outside and save the theives the trouble; I mean they are gonna get it anyway right?

  • Re:Great... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by PhraudulentOne ( 217867 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @09:13AM (#15977407) Homepage Journal
    Lol, hello there fellow Canadian!

          I also get a kick out of all this security stuff. My house is *never* locked. I don't even think the locks work, but then again, I've never tried them. My Jeep is sitting outside in the driveway of my office right now - the keys are in the ignition. I have no windows in my office - the Jeep could have been stolen 45min ago, but I know it's still there. If its a nice day out, it has no doors or top on, and they keys are still in the ignition. My friends the same way.

      If you were a thief, you could come to our house in the middle of the night, and have your pick of 4 vehicles to drive away in, or anything you want in the house.

    I dig the fact that we don't have many thieves around here.

  • Re:leaving crap open (Score:2, Interesting)

    by inject_hotmail.com ( 843637 ) on Friday August 25, 2006 @03:07PM (#15980583)
    My sister does exactly the oposite: she leaves the backdoor open all the time. Friends, neighbours, family know this. My nieces can always come home from school and they never have the door locked. They have a little old television set and an old DVD player and that's about it in terms of valuables you'll find there. Perhaps an few old computers upstairs, some kids toys...She and her husband think that too much TV is not good for the kids anyway. And they never get robbed, never had even the slightest issue with it. There is a morale in it somewhere, I'm not sure what it is though :-)

    My uncle has left all of his cars open all the time everywhere he goes, and at home. Period. Every car he's owned. One story is he parked at the "really crappy/high crime" mall (they have signs that, to paraphrase, say your car is likely to be punked) in his city and the car BESIDE his got busted into. Broken windows, busted dashboard, the works...his truck? Nothing. His windows were down! He even does this with his new truck.

    It's so crazy, it works. He says he thinks that the punks that would bust in probably think it's being watched or something, or...there's nothing of value in it...because he doesn't leave anything of value in it and if someone wants to check, he doesn't have to replace the busted window, if they take the truck, it's covered 100%...so, I agree with the other poster that says if you LOOK like you have something to protect, it might become more attractive.

    Inject.

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