Zend to Show PHP Tools In October 41
Darren Rayes writes "Zend plans to release the first version of Zend Framework on Oct. 29 during the next PHP conference. The Zend Framework provides a standard as it facilitates rapid development to write applications that run on Web servers, and includes PHP software modules for tasks such as database access or Web services communications. The framework provides a clean separation of logic and presentation, along with easy maintenance and extensibility through a well-organized application structure."
Your CS 101 Lesson for the Day (Score:2, Informative)
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PHP, which originally stood for Personal Home Page, was recoded & renamed to the recursive statement "PHP: Hypertext Processor" in 1997.
Dovetails with Eclipse? (Score:4, Interesting)
Once PHP loses its ubiquity crown, it doesn't have much advantage left.
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There is also a eclipse plugin for php development, but i haven't tested it.
I want a fast editor with basic project management, API integration and code completion.
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ASP & CF - Not free or open. The only reason I'd pick these is because I'm already locked in.
Ruby - Paradigm changing ideas and awesome framework, it doesn't seem like people are using Ruby for anything but rails. Availability on shared hosts is a issue here as well. Ruby is losing its draw to developers as more mature MVC flavored rapid development fra
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Yeah, not really. Ubiquity and knowing that certain things (like database connectivity) come with a standard install are the only reasons I use it. I'm dying to move to another language for development, but at the moment PHP is king of the hill in Free-land on those two counts.
Not quite sure what you mean by this, unless you mean the lack
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PHP is simplier, more like classic ASP only updated and supported by a huge community. Plus if you can live with the GPL there is an opensource project for every concievable thing you want to do that you can rip code off of.
Tools like phpEclipse fill in the gap of the integrated IDE and find parsing a
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PHP is just *GREAT* (Score:2)
The same thing that's wrong with so many other practical tools: it's not fancy enough, not enough bells and whistles, not nerdy enough, too practical. PHP has a simple C-like syntax that works well with most editors and developers utilities, it mingles better than any other language with HTML, it handles SQL very well, has good internationalization features. It's a perfect tool for simple tasks, the kind that's needed most often.
Years ago I did a little bit
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I've been developing nearly exclusively in PHP for somewhere around four years (just so you know, I'm not slagging the language for the hell of it. I've stored up a good dose of pain.)
It's the 3000+ functions in the global (and only) namespace. It's the inconsistant function naming ('2' or 'to', underscores or not) and parameters (needle-haystack or haystack-needle.) It's the poor quality of much of PEAR (not that there aren't some fine packages there, but they a
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Having many functions available is a good thing, no? Namespaces for standard libraries are a PITA that gains nothing in terms of encapsulation or abstraction.
PHP functions are often drawn from other languages, such as C or Perl, and the naming and parameters in the PHP versions are consistant with these other languag
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I dont go about using this library or that library if I can help it. I fully OO my code up and and I can pretty much do what others can do in other languages. (and yes code re-use is a default concept of mine so my classes can easily be shifted to another site and used with ease).
Yes I have looked at other languages but when it comes down to it i recon php aint going no place so why would I choose to learn yet another damned language when the one I have does the job good enough.
Days end ha
How does it compare to Ruby on Rails? (Score:1, Offtopic)
Re:How does it compare to Ruby on Rails? (Score:2)
Speed wise, Ruby is faster than PHP development (even with the Zend Framework), but only for application types that it excels at. Otherwise, PHP is often faster.
You can have .NET Framework in PHP now! (Score:1)
There's really no point in waiting for Zend Framework or anything made by the PHP group
http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName =Phalanger [codeplex.com]
Re:You can have .NET Framework in PHP now! (Score:1)
What about the point of not having .net dependencies? That seems like a good one to me.
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PHP has its place.... (Score:1)
If your project is complicated enough that you are thinking about paying for a framework that can provide a clean separation of logic and presentation, it's time to move on to bigger and better things. A Java/Tomcat/Struts s