Sending Mail to Hotmail Users? 126
Cafesolo wonders: "I'm developing a web application using PHP. It has a user registration system that sends a link via email to activate new accounts. I've found that sending mails to Hotmail accounts is very difficult, because the spam filter is very strong and it filters lots of non-junk messages. I think the spam filter blocks any email whose domain isn't in an internal whitelist (which might contain popular domains, like hotmail.com itself, gmail.com, yahoo.com, msn.com, etc). Most of my users have Hotmail emails. I can't simply tell my users to read the junk folder because most of them are not computer-savvy and that seems to be a bit confusing to them. Has anyone managed to solve this problem? Did somebody try to contact Microsoft? Is there any way to get whitelisted? Can an independent programmer get his domain whitelisted?"
Very big assumptions. (Score:5, Insightful)
Trial and error works. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:See slashdot article... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Do yourself a favour (Score:4, Insightful)
The kind of user that pays you money? And there are a lot of people that don't understand spam filtering. Unlike most other email concepts, this one doesn't really have a snail-mail analogue.
I already do this. Without fail, every single Hotmail user that I have sent an invite to has either signed up and not switched, or not bothered signing up at all. Hotmail users are happy with crap. Think about it - if they weren't, they wouldn't be with Hotmail in the first place, would they?
From someone who knows... (Score:1, Insightful)
Domain Keys are also an excellent addition to having SPF. Different people trust different technologies, so using both is always a good idea.
To increase your chances of mail delivery to Hotmail, have a look at this: http://postmaster.msn.com/Services.aspx#JMRPP [msn.com]
You'll figure out why your messages are being junked. Most of the biggies have some sort of feedback loop/whitelisting procedure. If you business depends on these people recieving your mail, you're doing stakeholders a terrible disservice in not using them.
Re:Tools are available (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Don't allow free emails (Score:2, Insightful)
simple (Score:2, Insightful)
i work on a medium sized, event driven, community website, and year after year we had the same problem - tons of people signing up at once, and a sizeable percentage of them wouldn't receive an activation email no matter how hard they tried.
this led to much customer support.
so we stopped requiring activation.
and it hasn't been a problem.
when you think about it, activation is useless. what benefit do you get out of it? you proved that some guy had access to some email account at single point of time in the past. so what? anyone who wants to get an account can sidestep your activation requirement with a throwaway email address. you're putting up a barrier to your less technically inclined customers without providing ANY benefit in return.
Re:Automatic death sentence (Score:2, Insightful)
We are talking about microsoft here. The company policy seems to be take out the little guys first.