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Techie Fight Clubs Springing Up 648

Browncoat writes "USAToday reports a new phenomenon hitting some of the cubicles of Silicon Valley. It seems that engineers and developers previously confined to sitting in front of their computers are getting their anger out the healthy way: by pummeling each other. From the article 'Inspired by the 1999 film Fight Club, starring Brad Pitt and Ed Norton, underground bare-knuckle brawling clubs have sprung up across the country as a way for desk jockeys and disgruntled youths to vent their frustrations and prove themselves. "This is as close as you can get to a real fight, even though I've never been in one," the soft-spoken Siou said.'"
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Techie Fight Clubs Springing Up

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  • by technoextreme ( 885694 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @07:30PM (#15431924)
    Step 1: Learn a martial art. See below. Step 2: Become a master Step 3: Step 3 depends on step one. See below. Akido-Laugh at people as they discover that their attacks are turned against them. Taekwondo- Laugh at people as you kick the living crap out of them. Wrestling- Laugh as you drop people on their head. Jui-Jitsu- Laugh as you break limbs. Judo- Laugh as you start throwing people over your hip. Kendo- Laugh as you teach those idiots in the article about how to use those sticks. In all seriousness, I've taken martial arts before and I think it's kind of pathetic. PS. Is this the first Slashdot article that actually mentions S&M .
  • Re:Unsupport claims (Score:5, Interesting)

    by feyhunde ( 700477 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @07:35PM (#15431958)
    Poor reporting treats it as a fact.

    There was violence before TV and Games and Movies.

    There were farm boys who grew up in peaceful farms that never heard a shot fired in anger or had a punch thrown whom grew up to be Soldiers. There were gun deaths that had nothing to do with Grand Theft Auto.

    The reporter (or more likely editor) is a PC fool whom doesn't realize the simple basic truth. Violent Video games save us from wayyyyyy more random acts of violence then they do encourage them. Anyone whose actually played the things in a bad mood knows what I'm talking about. The simulation is a cathartic. The bad date or club cockteases have made plenty a man hate women, if only for a bit. Killing a whore in GTA lets you get the release and satisfaction without actually hurting a human being.

    I guess too many of these folks are naive and really believe everything is sunshine and lollypops and don't understand the dark sides we all have. The side that comes out when we get cut off in traffic, the side that wants to slap everyone with a stupid answer. The part of us deep down that wants to be a Viking and Rape, Pillage and Burn. Or they might know they have such a side, but their own morality is such that they can not admit such a side exists.
  • Re:Repetition Club (Score:4, Interesting)

    by twistedsymphony ( 956982 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @08:32PM (#15432233) Homepage
    I'd have to agree. Fight Club is easily one of my favorite movies and Chuck Palahniuk is one of my favorite authors. I liked the book/movie for a lot of reasons other then the actual "fight club". Even still when I was in college (RPI) as a freshmen one of my buddies told me one day that some guys in his dorm started a fight club... I didn't believe him till he took me down there and I watched two clumsy nerds slap each other for 5 minutes before getting tired and reaching for their inhalers. This was years ago now... 2000 I believe. Pretty stupid if you ask me, if you want to fight people take a boxing or martial arts class...
  • by tetsu96 ( 790788 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @08:40PM (#15432271)
    ...is that the themes in the book / movie really hit home for a lot of people. Sitting back in your chair laughing at the idiots may be fun for the armchair warriors at large, but not everyone has really been tested and that was one of the core themes FC - how do you know what you've got if you never put it to the test? How do you know how you'll react to a fight when you've never been in one? How can you prove you've really pushed yourself to the limit without scars to show for it?

    And talk about a way to find out - if it's either kick some tail or get yours kicked in for you, I think that almost everyone would go into a full on a$$ kicking mode. At that point, it's the better man that wins but either way you're gonna push yourself harder than posting comments on a web site.

    For the office warrior who never got into a fight in his life, I can easily see this as thrilling beyond compare.

    I wouldn't recommend this to everyone, and there should probably be some safeguards put into this as even the UFC has rounds and referees to stop fights when it's clear that 1 person is taking too much of a beating, but I get it.
  • Re:No weapons! (Score:3, Interesting)

    by ajs ( 35943 ) <{ajs} {at} {ajs.com}> on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @09:07PM (#15432405) Homepage Journal
    I used to spar with a friend when I was in high school. He was one of the young marines, or whatever they call them, and so he knew how to fight. I had no clue, but I put my heart into it. It was a lot of fun, and I had no hope of ever hurting him (though I did manage to flip him once, nearly by accident).

    Looking back, though, I think that if we had both been untrained it would have been uglier.

    Still, I wonder why we're all assuming these people are untrained. The majority may be, but it only takes one or two competent fighters to organize the rest and make it a realitvely reasonable thing to do. Sure, people are going to get hurt... if you want to avoid that, don't fight, but you can cut the odds down of there being anything particularly serious.
  • Comment removed (Score:2, Interesting)

    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Tuesday May 30, 2006 @10:08PM (#15432675)
    Comment removed based on user account deletion
  • IMHO... (Score:3, Interesting)

    by jd ( 1658 ) <imipak@yahoGINSBERGo.com minus poet> on Wednesday May 31, 2006 @12:46AM (#15433127) Homepage Journal
    If the story is accurate, then these people have no medical backup (as they would in professional boxing) and, in fact, no idea of what medical consequences there might be. It's hard to tell, in the brain haemorrage case, what actually happened. We see a couple of lines that tell us exactly nothing. However, if people actually go to work on smashed ribs, they are likely to be going to work with far more serious (but less obvious) injuries.


    (The brain has no nerve endings, so I suspect you can suffer a lot of injuries there without being able to personally tell much. Actually, that WOULD explain why Silicon Valley has been turning out such crap recently - they're all brain-dead.)


    Yes, frustrations are understandable and evidence of a sick, unhealthy work environment. A healthy work environment should have ways of avoiding stress building up (such as by ensuring employees aren't treated as raw meat - frozen until fried). That should be when tech employees (who are supposedly intelligent - WAY above average intelligence) figure out better ways to do things - and do them. Y'know, given the choice of kicking someone half to death in a bout of frustration, or setting up a startup that has none of the stress issues, gets twice as much done, and has devoted employees because their brains are intact... I know which I'd call the smarter.


    These fight clubs are stupid and ultimately have to destroy their participants. The body can only absorb so much - it doesn't repair indefinitely and you don't get to regenerate. However, the corporate attitude that creates them is not merely stupid, inferior and inefficient, but as close to evil as a secular environment can get.


    This is the kind of attitude that was featured in the ORIGINAL "Rollerball" - the craving for more and more violent outlets, because of pressure. Hell, this is the kind of attitude which created historic figures like Nero and Calligula. Never mind the pop psychology, we have real-world examples of what happens to a society when senseless self-destruction becomes the only meaningful outlet.

  • Re:IMHO... (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ArchAngelQ ( 35053 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2006 @01:02AM (#15433187) Homepage Journal
    I don't disagree, really. I'm not saying this is a healthy outlet, just that it's healthier than some of the alternatives, such as taking out these destructive tendancies on people who *didn't* ask to be involved. TFA didn't provide much detail.

    As for techies being smarter than the majority? Not really. They are more capable of more focused, dedicated tasks. They are able to expend all their energies concentrating on a singular task. This makes them ideal for jobs where this is required. Coding is one of them. Design in general, really. You've got to be completely dedicated to truely get something right. Or even half right. That doesn't, inherantly, make someone smarter. I've met some brick stupid techies.

    As far as the 'evil' bit? I agree. It's why I'm not involved in corporate americ (or any other nation's version of same) any longer, and why I personally find this rather needless, mindless, and sad. But I can't just step in and say 'that person is doing something stupid' without justification, because frankly, I tell people who do that to me off, and go on with my life. And I'm not really intrested in posting such justification on, ya know, slashdot. I mean, c'mon. Slashdot. The majority of the people reading this have already made up their minds anyway.
  • Re:Repetition Club (Score:3, Interesting)

    by 70Bang ( 805280 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2006 @02:22AM (#15433434)


    This is new to you? When some of the books which contained fan-written stories which came out, it was said they were supposed to support this type of relationship - this would have been in the 70s - the same timeframe Spock Must Die! [1], etc. came out. (

    I think this [amazon.com] (The New Voyages) - fan written short stories is the one which started the buzz. I'd have to do some box digging in the garage. I've got all of the loose books which appeared on the shelves at that time (ca. '77-'80).

    I think the others at that time which were interpreted to push this lifestyle (perhaps more) were the Phoenix books[2].
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  • Re:Only morons (Score:2, Interesting)

    by dbmasters ( 796248 ) on Wednesday May 31, 2006 @07:37AM (#15434211) Homepage
    It is quite apparant you know literally nothing about fighting, and I am not saying that as a bad thing or good thing, just a fact. I am 39 years old and train mixed martial arts 4 times a week, hard-spar on a semi-regular basis and train with a few MMA cage fighters. One thing is certain in a fight, whether sparring or street fighting, you WILL take a couple shots to your body. Taking shots does not mean you lost the fight, it means you are in one. I have only seen one or two fights where one of the fighters literally took no hits. Yeah, bodily damage is possible, it happens, I take damage from time to time, but nothing horrible, nothing that doesn't heal, and it does no more long term damage than other people give themselves living off McDonalds and Coca Cola. I have found my training to be a great divertion from the rest of my life, for a few hours a week I can go take out frustration on a heavy bag, thai pads or a classmate. We punch, kick and grapple, shake hands afterwards and enjoy it very much. Nobody is trying to live up to Chuck Norris idolization, we just enjoy learning the martial arts. My wife trains, my kids train...it's all good.
  • Bubbles (Score:3, Interesting)

    When growing up I used to wrestle with other kids. Frequently the match would end when someone scraped up an arm, or hit their head hard enough to make them dizzy, or one of the big guys rolled over the leg of one of the little guys. In college, we sparred quite a few times.

    I always hated this. The idea of someone pawing and walloping me was never very appealing. Nonetheless, many, perhaps well meaning, individuals attempted to get me to "join in the fun". That's my bubble you're encroaching on, in a very intimate fashion. It wasn't pleasant. Sweaty palms abounded, and most of the instigators smelled quite poorly. I don't think most people find this prospect very appealing either.

    Personally, I suspect that most of these people are closet homosexuals trying to cop a feel, then covering up by thumping the target of their affections. I think the rest are in some way trying to cop a feel too. And all that walking around naked in showers. Come on. Who are they trying to kid?

    We live in a free society, but, there are bubbles ok. Some people have bubbles. Please respect that.

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