The End of the Bar Code 468
valdean writes "The University of Wisconsin RFID Lab, principally funded by a dozen Wal-mart suppliers including 3M, Kraft Foods, and S.C. Johnson & Son, believes that RFID could spell the end of the ubiquitous bar code. The big draw? Speeding up supply-chain management. Wal-mart's warehouse conveyor belts presently move products at 600 feet per minute... but they want to be faster. And better informed."
I know... (Score:5, Interesting)
"... but they want to be faster
" Why do they want to be faster? So they can continue to work a 40-hour week and rush home to...to what? The internet?
Sorry, but my life is too fast-paced as it is, the last thing I need is another thing to expedite my trip through life.
too much! (Score:5, Interesting)
I went to apply for a walmart credit card whan I was 18 - they already had my information and SSN - I was shocked.
They know too much already!
Commercial (Score:4, Interesting)
They won't be going away soon... (Score:5, Interesting)
Barcodes will be dead when.... (Score:2, Interesting)
At the moment, barcode scanning is obvious enough that I know when I'm being sized up consumer statistics-wise. RFID could allow the lady at the end of the aisle to scan from a distance, and loudly pronounce that you buy X brand and that Y brand is better - there's no limit or control over who could scan what you have...
Tidbit... I've seen a conveyor belt spin the items slowly to allow the barcode scanner ample time and angles to read every item.
Re:It took bar codes 50+ years to mature... (Score:4, Interesting)
barcodes are everywhere (Score:5, Interesting)
What about rebates? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:600 feet per minute... (Score:5, Interesting)
SCM experence (Score:2, Interesting)
If only they could put half of the engineering they put into that plant into every Wal-Mart so checkout lines would disappear. Something like the self checkout at Loblaws combined with this RFID would be very sweet. Walk through a sensor and swipe my credit card and then off to the car in seconds...
Re:I know... (Score:3, Interesting)
Remember, your retail experience is not necessarily defined by the everyday experience, but the worst case scenario. Think Christmas time. People will leave, not shop, put off shopping if there is a line, it's called line abandonment. During the shopping season, this happens all the time, I've done it. RFID makes it easier, because someone bags your parcels, and then you pay. It cuts out cashier error.
It doesn't necessarily eliminate the need for human contact, but it could possibly facilitate that.
Another reason why retailers want this is loss prevention. It'd be really easy to tell if something was stolen if it had RFID in it. It's great for business to have a liberal return policy, but there are tons of people that abuse that with trying to return stolen merchandise, etc. If retailers had RFID, they could save a lot of money, through lessening theft and LP training. Some may pass those savings on to you, something to the order of 5 bucks on a 40 dollar shirt.
I'm personally for it. I hate having to wait in a line for a half an hour during christmas.
One small problem... (Score:3, Interesting)
meanwhile in japan (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually... (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course, this means that you likely want to bag the items as you shop instead of afterwards.
Re:Actually... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:600 feet per minute... (Score:4, Interesting)
When the post office first started using letter sorters, there were those times when the system glitched and a letter clogged the sorter path. After a few hundred letters piled onto the stack, the sorter stopped.
Now consider a conveyer moving at 1200 feet per minute. If one package redirector misses, the system will have to stop for manual intervention. So how fast can the conveyer be stopped to avoid slipping and pile-up of other packages. Then how long will it take to un-pile those items that were moving at 1200 fpm and get the conveyer started again. It's like taking a trip. If you have to stop for gas and rest-room, the average trip speed is greatly reduced.
How does Wal-mart plan to get packages onto the conveyer at that rate? It will take twice as many people and twice the number of conveyer entry points and exit points. Then they will have to double the number of people doing the final stocking to shelves or taking to trucks. Also the number of trucks entering and leaving the warehouse will have to double and the roads will have to handle the increased traffic.
RFID speeds things all along the route and will allow much faster distribution, especially perishables like fruit and vegetables, and that also translates to less refridgeration time and lower cost in keeping environments cool or hot or in special gasses to control ripening rate.
Now consider what happens at the high speed checkout when one of the items registers as alcohol and the buyer is less than proper age. The line manager will be over helping at the cashierless line since the stupid system stops because the weight is not what it expected, and if you think Wal-mart is going to add another line manager just so you can get through faster...!
One of my fears is that with the new handling speed the bananas will be too green to eat and I will have to buy them two days early.
Re:Overhyped as usual (Score:3, Interesting)
I don't see anywhere in the article where the "death of the barcode" is prophecied -- although there is one sentence saying that it "could one day replace barcodes".
As far as Wal-Mart and their use of RFID, this for supply-chain management only. We are not talking about the trenchcoat guy in the aforementioned commercial. RFID is nowhere near being used in the retail sector. We are talking about loading boxes on and off trucks -- not an individual apple or bra. The items will still need barcodes for use inside the retail outlets.
As far as the privacy concerns, we are talking about a technology that is only readable from a few feet away. The Men In Black will not be able to drive past your house and see whats in the fridge. You're worried about chips being in your underwear when you leave wal-mart? Guess what -- Every time you leave wal-mart you walk between these two sensors that sound an alarm if you're carrying stolen goods. Thats because a little tag on the products alerts the sensors...how is this different from RFID?
Big, bad downsides of RFID as opposed to barcodes? (Score:3, Interesting)
Where RFID *might* Help (Score:3, Interesting)
It's further up the supply chain when you've got a pallet with maybe 50 cases on it. Barcode doesn't work very well because:
1. You have to trust the person creating the pallet's barcode. There is no incentive for walmart to pay an employee more for that trust, so they want a computer instead.
2. The 50 case pallet needs RFID to accurately report what's on the pallet. If a case or two might "fall off" a barcoded pallet then the barcode is none the wiser. In theory RFID would report the entire contents of the pallet as it's passing through the door.
The problems:
A. Cost. Barcodes got RFID beat hands down.
B. Accuracy. An RFID chip can't communicate through many layers of cardboard/product/cardboard so a pallet with boxes on the inside bottom do not get reported. If you want to be a millionaire, patent an amplifier/antenna that can be sprayed onto a paper tube and dropped down the center of a pallet of goods to get those inside boxes to accurately report. Now, if you don't pay me for this great idea, I'll unleash my submarine patent on you.
In this application it's not so much what's on the retail floor they're so concerned about it's keeping accurate track of goods at a logistics/warehouse level.
I gotta stop ordering double-espresso.
Re:N.O. (Score:3, Interesting)
It's more like:
1. look for identical items in the pile.
2. count them accurately (if they can't count cans of cat food, wtf are they doing with a cash drawer?)
3. scan one item from the pile and enter the quantity with the keypad
4. move the stack over to be bagged.
Tell you what, you use your way, I'll use mine, we'll see who is faster? Pay attention next time you buy 6 cases of Jolt at Costco...
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