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Christmas Cheer The Almighty Buck

12 Christmas Gifts Not To Buy Online 176

nsingapu writes "While online shopping is booming this Christmas, niche products like "two turtle doves" purchased on the Internet are becoming increasingly more expensive then their non e-tailed counterparts. PNC bank has updated their annual tongue-in-cheek economic analysis, based on the cost of goods and services purchased by the True Love in the holiday classic, "The Twelve Days of Christmas." The analysis compares the cost of traditional goods against their cost thoughout the past 20 years and against the price when purchased online. PNC concludes that most items are more expensive to buy over the Internet, primarily due to the cost of shipping, and that the abundance of cheaper labor in countries such as India and China has resulted in pressure on U.S. manufacturers to outsource."
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12 Christmas Gifts Not To Buy Online

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  • Merry Mercantilism. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by the talented rmg ( 812831 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:07PM (#11001431)
    Indeed, with the dollar *tanking* like it is, the cost of Christmas can be expected to take a sharp upturn even in terms of currencies like True Love and Monopoly Money.

    I'd be a lot more inclined to laugh if this weren't so serious. The financial security of our country is at serious risk given the astonishing rate of decline in the dollar since the election. With the Chinese selling off dollars like hotcakes, costs of toys made in the Orient, such as DVD players, PDAs, and iPods, will be just a little higher this year and the trend will only continue.

    I hope everyone can eek out a Merry Christmas this year. It may be your last in while. With the mercantilist economic policies of the Bush Administration only likely to continue and with confidence in US financial institutions at an all time low and dropping, everyone should just make sure this is a Christmas to remember. Next year, you may not be able to give your kids anything more than a hug and an yellow onion.

    Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
  • by michaelmalak ( 91262 ) <michael@michaelmalak.com> on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:08PM (#11001437) Homepage
    Online shoping is attractive mostly because of the time that it saves. Another factor is transportation cost, which AAA calculates to be 56.2 cents per mile [csaa.com], which it appears PNC did not account for in its calculations. And from their cost breakdown [ouraaa.com], it doesn't look like AAA is even taking into account medical costs, which is why I personally try to minimize the number of miles I drive (fear of injury or death).
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:12PM (#11001456)
    The West Coast of the USA has launched a campaign to boycott products made in China [pushback.com]. The Chinese have brutalized Tibetans and continue to do so [phrusa.org]. Your conscience beckons you to join this boycott.

    As for offshoring, it damages worker's rights and environment in the USA. Chinese companies do not pay the cost of worker's rights and privileges (e.g. disability insurance) and the cost of protecting the environment. Hence, Chinese companies can undercut American companies.

    If you see a product that is "Made in China" or "Made in India", simply do not buy it. As investments in Eastern Europe increase, you can find alternative products that are made there. Unlike the Chinese, Eastern Europeans are committed to Western values (e.g. worker's rights and environmental protection). Buy "Made in Poland" or "Made in Slovakia" (like the tail lights on my car).

  • by gmplague ( 412185 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:20PM (#11001487) Homepage
    If you combine the best prices from the Internet and "Traditional" shopping, you'd spend $13,717.91

    Specifically, the cost of 12 Drummers Drumming and 11 Pipers Piping is significantly cheaper on the internet, and you can obtain five gold rings for $15 less on the internet than traditionally.

    Although, I wonder exactly what comes with "11 Pipers Piping"...
  • by the talented rmg ( 812831 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:22PM (#11001494)
    A sharply falling dollar will mean our labor prices will go down compared to those in China and India and eventually manufacturing will start flowing back. In other words, we will be getting that inshoring stuff they always talk about -- that is to say, marginal jobs in manufacturing and low-end computer maintenance.

    Still, this will all come at significant costs in terms of standard of living. A lot of our thinkgeek wishlists will fill up, but not empty. No Playstation 3 for little Billy. Indeed, we on a one-way train to becoming the Argentina of North America. Such frills will take a back seat to food and shelter.
  • by jgartin ( 177959 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:41PM (#11001573)
    When I shop online it isn't necessarily because I can find a better price (although you usually can when shopping for computer parts). It's because whatever I want isn't availalbe locally.
  • Re:Here's one hint (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday December 05, 2004 @12:50PM (#11001617)
    ...you've bleached pigeons? Or... can you get them pre-bleached?
  • by WIAKywbfatw ( 307557 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @01:04PM (#11001688) Journal
    I'll go one further: The Dali Lama, Tibet's spiritual leader, fled to India when the Chinese invaded and it was in India that he set up his government-in-exile. And China has invaded India in the past too.

    Sorry, but it's this sort of ignorance of the highest magnitude - not realising that China, the world's largest communist country, and India, the world's largest democracy, are two seperate countries - that has people who aren't American rolling their eyes and dismissing Americans as stupid. I mean, have you ever heard of anyone anywhere who assumes that the US and Cuba are the same country? Because that's the closest analogy I can come up with to thinking that China and India are one and the same.

    To the original poster who made this dumb assumption I have this advice: it's better to say nothing and have people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Oh, and read a book too every now and then. Believe me, right now people like you are giving your country a very bad name the world over.
  • I meant to do that! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by the talented rmg ( 812831 ) on Sunday December 05, 2004 @01:45PM (#11001910)
    I suppose you also "meant to do that" when Iraq turned out to be the disaster anticipated.

    W isn't up to anything and Greenspan is actually worried about this state of affairs. Perhaps he should also seek professional help. W is a political idiot and an economic one too. He's running the country into the ground the same way he did his oil companies. The falling dollar is a symptom of his fiscal incompetence and it will have serious implications for the American worker in the next few years.

    Of course, corporations and rich investors will be able to move their holdings into Euros and Yen so they will dodge much of the inflationary and devaluing effect of a quickly dropping currency. That's good news for bourgeois sycophants like yourself: Your boys in the ownership class will get off scott-free after taking the country for all it's worth.

    Meanwhile, you'll have an especially Merry Christmas knowing you won't have any homosexual marriages in your state this season. Enjoy!
  • by say ( 191220 ) <sigve@wo[ ]aidah.no ['lfr' in gap]> on Sunday December 05, 2004 @03:06PM (#11002342) Homepage

    China's Yuan is directly linked to the US Dollar

    Actually, most Chinese commentators (and some american and european) seem to think that China will revaluate (now that's not a common word) the Yuan sometime in 2005. The direct link to US Dollar is rather much of a liability these days...

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