Microsoft to Build High School in Philadelphia, PA 615
LynchMan writes "According to the The Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia is too be the home of a Microsoft funded High School. While having an inner city public school with a large tech fund ($46 Million) will be a great asset to those young students interested in technology, is the Philadelphia School District selling out to Microsoft really the only way to achieve this? Especially with all of the negative press that Microsoft has had recently, is this an attempt to do some good and help out those who cannot afford private school? Or is Microsoft just making sure that they secure themselves another generation of coders/admins/users? This being the first school of it's kind, will a Microsoft high school be coming to a town near you?" This looks very much like the Microsoft buses that toured from school to school a couple years back, but much larger and much more stationary.
Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Interesting)
If it was not for Microsoft this school would still be built, it just wouldn't have the technology.
I have the suspicion that those who object to this would think it would be the coolest thing if RedHat decided to help a school become a pure Linux organization, with a Zarus PDA for every child.
Pink Floyd (Score:2, Interesting)
coders (Score:3, Interesting)
No. If they wanted that, they would build a school in India (next to the condoms factory
Re:Corporate Sponsorship in Schools (Score:4, Interesting)
Okay, we had a soda machine at my high school. I think it was a Pepsi machine, but I honestly can't recall. But it was just one machine, and it was not in the cafeteria, so it was not "tempting" people to buy ye olde nasty carbonated sludge.
Would someone at my high school have been sent home for drinking a Coke? Shit no. They could have brought it from home. Now, we did have people expelled for drinking JD when they should have been in class....
Frankly, if a corp wants to buy a shitload of computers or educational material for a school, fine by me. As long as it meets or exceeds the standards set by the local school board, I have no problem with it whatsoever, especially if it's helping a poorer school district.
Is this automatically going to give rise to a bunch of pro-MS kids? Doubtful. If anything, it will most likely lead to those kids learning computers a bit better, as they try and bypass whatever firewalls or censor-ware are on the computer to get to the pr0n. (Also, I see a lot of firesharing in this school's future. They can go ahead and combine student ID's with the RIAA's crap-tastic idea for "amnesty".)
Kierthos
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Interesting)
Its a great idea!
We know they will learn almost exclusively microsoft products, but thats ok. They will be learning computers.
I wonder if Microsoft will eliminate their auditing for the school out of fear that they too would be found with 'illegal copies' of Microsoft products...
Re:The Awkward Years of Obsolescence (Score:2, Interesting)
nice to see these schools getting some money back (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:2, Interesting)
"This is an experiment! If afterwards the students bought cigarettes for themselves, so what, they were likely to anyway. "
Re:The Awkward Years of Obsolescence (Score:3, Interesting)
Quite. And what happens when it's served its purpose to Microsoft and they quietly withdraw funding?
The first hit of heroin's always free.
altruististic ? nope, self-interest. (Score:4, Interesting)
Scroll down for Paul Allen reference
http://www.savephillyschools.org/edisonwatch/ [savephillyschools.org]
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyone remember this [theregister.co.uk]?
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:coders (Score:3, Interesting)
A PR-stunt is a typically low-budget, outrageous our at least out-of-the-ordinary event designed to get undue media attention - hence "stunt." For example, Bill Gates breakdancing on "Dance Fever" would be a media stunt.
Been there, Done that (Score:2, Interesting)
But will they keep it up? (Score:2, Interesting)
It was fantastic the first year. New computers, servers, modem banks, everything a high school loser could ever hope for! But then IBM cut funding, leaving this little rural community footing the bill.
I kid you not, the next year, the school was so strapped for cash, students were required to bring their own toilet paper to school with them!
Sure, it good for some publicity photographs and it gets Micro$oft on Slashdot for something POSITIVE for a change, but will M$ continue to pour cash into the school, or will the tide turn when the paint dries?
Re:Cue the Microsoft Bashing!! (Score:3, Interesting)
Just so long as they make sure they have the complete O'Reilly catatlog and don't put up a fuss about the Linux backend running the catalog.
I'm reminded of one of my favorite bumper stickers:
"Welcome to New Jersey! Leave your money and go the fuck home"
KFG
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Interesting)
Remember, Microsoft is a monopoly. They play by different rules. If Coke was a monopoly with 90%+ marketshare, you bet the government would be denying them any contracts to "extend" their reach into schools.
If Microsoft and Apple were 50/50 in overall dominance, it would simply be competition. Otherwise, Microsoft should be highly scrutinized when it comes to anti-competitive behavior.
How about making technology a lower priority (Score:3, Interesting)
Philly LUG(s) have some opportunity here (Score:2, Interesting)
Linux user group(s) in Philadelphia should think about finding old, donated equipment, and offer it along with group Linux lessons and installfests to students of "MS High". Contact the student council. MS isn't running the school, they're only providing the technology & support. The exposure to technology that these kids will get at school may spark their interest, but they could have no money for the expensive proprietary software, and we know what happens when MS software is pirated [salon.com]. With some help, they could learn that great software isn't necessarily expensive.
Re:Little billy did something bad (Score:2, Interesting)
Captain Nitpick writes:
Nicely done, except that "thine" means "yours" (or it can mean "your" before a vowel, as in "thine user base"); so I'm guessing that in the bit about SCO you probably want to be using "their" instead of "thine" throughout.
And they said an English degree was useless.
Memories are short... (Score:2, Interesting)
link [salon.com]
Considering the alternative... (Score:1, Interesting)
Well, since they spent the last century and a half "sold out" to the State of Pennsylvania, this could be PROGRESS.
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:3, Interesting)
A typical monopolist tactic is to sell or give away software at reduced prices. This is flat out illegal for a monopoly to do. Microsoft can afford to give away software if it means making up profits by locking this school into buying future microsoft products to remain compatible. Give away the software, sell upgrades at astronomical prices.
Now, two things could be happening here, I think. The Gates foundation could be not only donating the software needed, they could be donating services and free upgrades. If Microsoft pours nothing but heart into this and expects no monetary gain out of this, then its a noble cause. Even if they expected a little mindshare I wouldn't mind.
However, if the Gates foundation says "here's a bunch of PCs with windows and office on them, see you in 2 years when you'll need to upgrade them" I expect someone to step up and cry "MONOPOLY" because this is a loophole which should be illegal. IANAL so I don't know if it is or not, but it should be.