Microsoft to Build High School in Philadelphia, PA 615
LynchMan writes "According to the The Philadelphia Inquirer, Philadelphia is too be the home of a Microsoft funded High School. While having an inner city public school with a large tech fund ($46 Million) will be a great asset to those young students interested in technology, is the Philadelphia School District selling out to Microsoft really the only way to achieve this? Especially with all of the negative press that Microsoft has had recently, is this an attempt to do some good and help out those who cannot afford private school? Or is Microsoft just making sure that they secure themselves another generation of coders/admins/users? This being the first school of it's kind, will a Microsoft high school be coming to a town near you?" This looks very much like the Microsoft buses that toured from school to school a couple years back, but much larger and much more stationary.
A Win Win (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Informative)
"How could anyone have any question about this being a good thing?" [..cut..] MS is contributing technology and services to the school."
I would say the article makes it look like Microsof is paying for the school, but it only gives project management, training and support. Which probably only will relate to Microsoft technology.
From the article: "Microsoft's contribution will not be monetary, but services worth millions of dollars, including a full-time on-site project manager, planning and design expertise, staff training and ongoing technology support. It plans to bring in other technology partners.In what way is this such a beutifully good thing?
Re:Corporate Sponsorship in Schools (Score:3, Informative)
I think the case you're referring to is a student who was suspended for wearing a Pepsi t-shirt on his high school's "Coke Day"?
Re:A Win Win (Philly's bad schools) (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Corporate Sponsorship in Schools (Score:5, Informative)
> me...
I remember something about this. A quick Google turned up the following blurb. I don't know that this is true (a little more digging should confirm/reject it):
Greenbrier High School in Evans, Georgia had sponsored a "Coke in Education Day" in order to win $500 from the Coca-Cola company. One kid (Michael Cameron) wore a Pepsi shirt to school to protest and was suspended.
So, the report, albeit incorrect, was not *that* far off the mark. And the above story of Greenbrier High School, if true, is very worrisome.
Rebels! (Score:2, Informative)
To be l33t.
I feel l33t because I'm the only person who uses linux in the whole school (sysadmins included)
On another note, our school would greatly benefit from ANY sort out IT help. Either they don't subnet or have good bridges. When a class logs on the Novell-based network, the whole network goes to pieces.
It's not every day you walk down to the helpdesk and see half the staff hunt-and-pecking with two fingers.
Re:It smells... (Score:5, Informative)
It will be one of 11 new high schools to be funded by the district's five-year $1.5 billion capital plan.
Microsoft's contribution will not be monetary, but services worth millions of dollars, including a full-time on-site project manager, planning and design expertise, staff training and ongoing technology support.
The company's reward is the opportunity to design a school using technology in every way possible from the ground up - a prototype it could then market.
"Microsoft came here because we asked, simple as that," Vallas said.
For those who might criticize such a corporate presence in a public school, district officials emphasized that Microsoft will not manage the school.
It seems to me, based on the article, that MS is not funding the building of the school other than providing the technology and then continuning to provide support and advice for the school. Sure, Microsoft is getting something out of the deal but I don't remember reading where a good or charitable deed had to be completely selfless. Yes they may get tax breaks, a foot in the door to other districts and have a customer for future products at this school. But so what, they are providing a substatial benefit to the students at this school.
Pepsi on Coke Day story is true. (Score:5, Informative)
Here is the first link from Google on the subject:
http://www.noveltynet.org/content/paranormal/www.p arascope.com/articles/cnews/980325.htm [noveltynet.org]
I very strongly recommend that everyone read "No Logo". Brands in education is a problem.
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Simon
Re:Blackmail (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:5, Informative)
Computers in nearly every classroom from elementry to high school. (Nice ones, trust me).
OC-3 Internet access.
Internet 2 access (T3 IIRC).
Lots of tech training for the district's teachers.
Library automation.
Basically, just about everything that a school would need and then some. His kids are well taken care of.
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Little billy did something bad (Score:5, Informative)
Philly is getting retribution... (Score:3, Informative)
Philadelphia school district is among the poorest funded in the nation. In 1998 Microsoft and the BSA nailed the district to the tune of $4.8 million. [salon.com]
Now, Philadelphia is going to Microsoft and helping them market their products in return for funds to help build a new high school (which is desperately needed). I think Mayor John Street and his team have done a good job in turning that loss in 1998 into a win 5 years later.
Re:Blinded By Hate (Score:2, Informative)
Actually, Newark High School in Newark, DE has just unveiled a new schoolwide network (built by volunteer Dads and Moms, totally funded by fundraising that people in the school community had done) featuring boxes with AMD procs all running Red Hat, Open Office, and a myriad of other programs included in the K-12 Linux Terminal Server Project. Basically, the only cost was hardware, otherwise, the volunteers built all the boxes, installed the software, and configured the network. What a great step away from Microsoft, eh?
Re:Little billy did something bad (Score:4, Informative)
We are all serfs on Microsoft's and Big Pharma's 'intellectual property.' [gregpalast.com]
Re:Philadelphia school systems in big trouble (Score:2, Informative)
We're not so desparate that the city is building (built) 2 brand new stadiums at a HUGE cost to the taxpayers (see Monday Night Football this week). But, hey, the labor unions need their payoffs / kickbacks for their continued support of Mayor Street.
Philly has money for what it wants to have money for. That's always been the case. They could do better by the schools (considering they just upped real estate taxes again). They don't want to.
How else are they going to get street sweepers for "The Avenue of the Arts"?
Re:Little billy did something bad (Score:5, Informative)
You forgot to say IANACPA. I'm not either, but I do know that according to the IRS your basis for charitable contributions of inventory (that is property you sell in the course of your business) is the SMALLER of the fair market value or your cost.
If MS donates software that cost them very little to produce then they get very little tax deduction. If the software comes directly from MS then MS is donating millions of dollars worth of software that the school could probably never afford in exchange for very little tax benefit. If the software is coming from the Gates Foundation, then the foundation would have to buy the software from MS and donate it. Since the foundation is tax exempt the deduction wouldn't be an issue. If you like you can check out form Publication 526 [irs.gov] from the IRS.
Re:Little billy did something bad (Score:3, Informative)
At our business, we put in hours and hours of work into free websites for non-profits, only to find out that we couldn't get any tax deductions for services rendered.
Not a penny.
I'm not sure how the tax code works exactly in this respect, but the only amount they can deduct is the amount of money spent to salary the workers, which they would be doing anyway even if they were working in Microsoft proper. If Microsoft is already reporting the salaries for these workers (and I'm sure they would be!) then they can't take any further deductions for these workers, even if all the work they do is "donated". And for services rendered, they can only deduct for the real cost associated with them, such as costs for printing and various tangible goods.
Please let me know if this is not the case, because it'd never hurt to be able to deduct the work we've done.
The reverse is not true, apparently. Say I give someone 10 hours of web work in exchange for a free meal worth $75. The IRS sees this as a barter exchange, and technically I have to report the full value of the time as income. So I would have to report fair-market value of ten hours of web work (around $450-700) as income. *grrrrr*
Isn't it a way to escape tax ? (Score:1, Informative)
The rich usually have the choice between giving their money to the state OR to non profit organisations.
So creating a foundation bearing its own name is a common thing.