Interview with Creators of Cowboy Bebop 70
I stumbled accross an interview with the creators of Cowboy Bebop running in the latest issue of
Ex. Tons of nifty bits including some spoilers (they are obscured, so if you, like me, haven't seen the 2 DVDs that haven't yet been released in the US, don't worry) as well as the revelation that the script is written for the Bebop movie. Tons of great Fay fan service for CowboyNeal too.
Re:What about US cartoons? (Score:1)
Cartoon network has some original stuff that is quite good.
I find it ironic that no one looks at French animation, since that is where the word 'Anime' comes from.
Faye? No way (Score:2)
-Laxitive
Re:Faye? No way (Score:1)
fan service (Score:1)
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Harsh But Fair: you know it makes sense
Keep anime the hell off /. (Score:1)
Re:What about US cartoons? (Score:2)
Re:What about US cartoons? (Score:1)
Re:First two? (Score:1)
Rant (Score:1)
First of all, I've got to say that Cowboy Beebop is right up there with my favorite Anime titles. It has humor, great animation, and a pretty decent story but most of all it has the best OST of any series i can think of right now! *grin* I can feel the flames that that might draw. But I am very serious, Bebop really has some energy and that is something that a few other titles could really pick up on(I'll mention no names!) There just aren't enough series with Jazz or Bebop in the soundtrack.
Now for the rant!
I love seeing Anime on Slashdot. Hell, anime stories are a breath of fresh air compared to the usual YRO and Katz submissions. But I'm ready to say pull the plug on it for the simple reason that 80% of the posts are offtopic rantings about how Slashdot should be all hardcore tech articles. The subject is a damn troll magnet. What the hell is wrong with people! I mean it's pretty sick that we have all this bullshit about free expression and being able to express ourselves, but as soon as Anime comes up the flames and trolls start to overwelm the comments. Its about time people starting using their heads, if you don't like the topic, don't post to it, and don't read it. Boycott the Anime topic. That speaks a hell of alot more than any "How is this News for Nerds?" or "Slashdot is turning into crap" posting from an Anonymous Coward does.
cowbow bebop is better than any movie (Score:1)
EX.org (Score:1)
oh yes, btw, Bebop really rox.
ummm (Score:1)
Well, the flaw there is that if Taco comes across an anime story that he feels is interesting, he is going to post it on his website.
My question is: why do you care? Nobody is forcing you to read the articles. I understand you feel there is some other story more deserving of that slot on the main page, but obviously the editors of this website disagree. So why get all riled up about it? Just skip over it, filter it out, whatever you want to do (or complain about it - what would an anime story be without the same old predictable complaints?). Just don't expect Taco to stop liking things and to stop posting things he likes.
Does it say anywhere that this is a democracy? Even if 99% of the readers don't like anime, why should he give up his right to post whatever he thinks is interesting?
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Re: Kanno interview HERE (Esca, Bebop, Mac+, etc) (Score:1)
An entire article about Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop, and not even a mention to the master of music Yoko Kanno.
Fear not, we at EX.org devoted an entire interview to Yoko Kanno last year. ^^ (We even included a surprise Q&A with her Escaflowne partner Hajime Mizoguchi.)
EX 4.5: Interview with Kanno Yoko [ex.org]
EX 4.5: Escaflowne Panel [ex.org]
(Yes, I'm shamelessly biased.
At the time we visited their office, the Bebop producer, director, and character designer were all there, but not Kanno. However, we did cover the first live concert of Maaya Sakamoto (Hitomi's character voice and opening theme singer for Escaflowne in Japanese) this month, and guess who was there to greet us
Re:e? (Score:1)
Re:PSX game (Score:1)
Re:Where's Kanno? (Score:1)
Even more stupid, they cut out the entire first episode apparently in an effort to make the show "less girly". I shudder to think how much of the series is going to be eviscerated because Fox wants a boy's show, rather than the show they actually decided to air.
Here is Kanno! (Score:3)
If you have a hard time finding what you're looking for, go to Tenkuu no Kanno Yoko [simplenet.com] for her complete discography with catalog numbers.
For anyone else reading this who isn't familiar with the amazing Yoko Kanno, you probably are and simply don't know it. She has composed the soundtracks for many recent hit anime series, including Macross Plus, Escaflowne, Brain Powerd, Turn A Gundam, and Cowboy Bebop, as well as a slew of one-shots for other shows like Please Save My Earth, X/1999, and the Lodoss War TV series.
Simply put, she is a genius. I can't even begin to describe how diverse and magnificent her work is without lapsing into lame hyperbole. She does it all: choral, orchestral, Celtic/new age, jazz, funk, techno, rock, ska, pop, and several other styles we don't even have names for. Many, many people buy her CDs "sight unseen" because she is just that good.
For samples in RealAudio format, go here [simplenet.com].
Re:Misc. (Score:1)
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Re:Hopeless (Score:1)
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Re:fan service (Score:1)
Re:Where's Kanno? (Score:2)
The only music from escaflowne that was blatently changed was the intro and ending. However, fox has been given permission to re-arrange kanno's other songs as they see fit, but not remove anything entirely.
Im just going to buy the DVDs with the origional japanese track and all the yummy extras and be done with it. This bickering about esca edits on TV bother me. If you dont like it, buy the dvds and dont watch the show.
Esca on tv brings more fans over to anime and therefor more cash into the anime industry, securing the continued creation of such mastery. (or something equally cliche)
All-in-all, quality big name anime titles on amercian tv is a Good Thing, it can only help the fans.
New atanime.com [atanime.com]
Slightly Offtopic, but I fear not the Karma loss.. (Score:1)
It fits. Really! (Score:1)
First off, I think it fits. It's interesting, it's quality animation, and Cowboy Bebop is one of the neatest series to come out in quite some time.
Anime is neat, but in moderation and dependant on what it is. I feel that 99.9% of all anime is just utter crap. Especially the stuff that ends up on standard basic cable or the networks: Only Gundam Wing has been worth watching. (But what a ride that was! Episode 15 onwards was more than worth the time..) Encore's Action channel runs some, but Battle Angel was too rushed/badly done, and I didn't like Macross. Watch Patlabor if it's on; damn cool. Cinemax also runs *cringe* hentai anime on weekend nights. WHY, I don't know. It's utter garbage and trash.
I still want to smack Taco for making a big fuss about the utter garbage that is new DBZ, though.
And before anyone comments on it, Anime has a reputation for being childish, or pr0n/tentacle related. This is because this is what becomes popular, or what came first to the US, because it was thought to be popular. This is generally not really reflective of the stuff as a whole. But it partially depends on what you watch as well. I know people that like sugary garbage like "Oh My Goddess!" *shudder*
For good series, track down the Rurouni Kenshin OAV(Not the series!), Lain, Bebop, etc. I didn't like Evangelion.(the otaku can harass me now.)
Moving on... Slashdot is _not_ turning into a generic news site, never has, and as far as I can tell never will. (Unless those YRO freaks have their way, but that's another rant.) It's news-for-nerds and at the same time it's cool-stuff-that-interests-Taco. To think otherwise is to hold slashdot on this pillar of news objectivity that it doesn't fit.
Y'see, if you filter out the garbage that neither Taco nor Hemos posts, you get something that resembles... Yes, that's right, old slashdot! The 'decline' is overrated. Most of the existent decline appears in the posts, the trolls, the lusers and the morons, who sees the site as something that doesn't fit them. Nice and open minded, isn't it?
Anyway.. Lots of stuff fits on slashdot, whether people think so or not, mainly because you _can't pin people down to a certain subset_. Slashdot is a one stop shop for your stuff needs, and it cannot fill everyone's specific subset: Anime has a bad reputation. Vocal minorities love those to complain about and rant about, in my experience online.
To put it bluntly, I have seen 'This doesn't fit here!' or 'This shouldn't be here!' when there are a lot of interested people: Since the dawn of slashdot. Even after it switched from Chips and Dips it had a few within the first month.
Now that I have gone absolutely nowhere with this ramble, I'll stop here. ;)
(Little proof that I've been around so long, tho; I would have a lower, Four-digit account ID, but for some reason it was nuked. Oh well.)
e? (Score:1)
Huh? The 'slashdot community' isn't for or against ANYTHING! Just because we all happen to find a certain news site interesting doesn't mean we all have the same stances on things. Its obvious by the trolling/flaming that goes on in these anime stories that the Slashdot community as a whole is somewhat divided on the matter.
Re:Faye? No way (Score:1)
Its official.. (Score:1)
Rob, get some help..please. Your "hobby" is becoming an embarassment to all of us.
Bowie J. Poag
Re:Faye? No way (Score:2)
Faye is just eye candy most of the time. When she has a characterization episode it doesn't really affect the rest of the show.
Ed is just way too out there for me.
Jon
(ot) Here's a link (Score:1)
http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=savehome&extid_ani me=1&maxstories=30 [slashdot.org]
It will exclude the anime topic, so you don't have to see any more anime articles.
(It'll also probably screw up the slashboxes, and some other options, but you deserve it)
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Hey rob where do you think the mpaa gets its money (Score:2)
a.) ban peer to peer file sharing (there are lobbying congress to do this as wee speak and extend the dmca because they think its too liberal!)
b.) throw innocent 16 year old kids in jail for corporate profits
c.)...call all open source programmers thieves that steal from American bussiness by copying copyrights.
Oh and I forgot to ask you one more thing? Where did the mpaa get the $200 million to lobby for the dmca act? Its not hard to guess where.
BAN DVD! wake up people! Corporations only get corrupt if we give them power. I would not be supprised if 2 years from now sony and Time-warner will have literally firewalled every isp in existence for ftp and all other ports except 80 where www belongs(at least I think its 80.). Look at past
With the recent court ruling and the new extensions to the dmca, ISPs are going to be %100 liable for what a user does! THis new extension plus many more (just look at what they plan to do with software in the new act)are going to be added to the dmca act this fall or next winter folks as congress loves campaign contributions. SCARY AS HELL!
Microsoft is not our real enemy its hollywood.
BAN DVD BAN DVD! who is with me ?
Re:PSX game (Score:1)
Re:fan service (Score:2)
Jon
Re:Faye? No way (Score:1)
Faye: You're playing that game again?
Ed: Not again, still.
Faye: Huh? You've been playing it all WEEK?
Re:Where's Kanno? (Score:1)
So, let me indulge my morbid curiosity: how do they establish that Hitomi ends up on Gaia anyway? I hope that they left in enough of the pendant to keep it (and what Hitomi's doing with it) as a critical part of the plot.
Misc. (Score:1)
What about US cartoons? (Score:1)
First two? (Score:3)
It's ok.. (Score:1)
i LOVE that series! (Score:1)
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Re:second post (Score:1)
Where's Kanno? (Score:3)
An entire article about Escaflowne and Cowboy Bebop, and not even a mention to the master of music Yoko Kanno. Oh, well. I'll just continue to hope the the Cowboy Bebop soundtracks come out here.
What the hell was Fox thinking? Escaflowne without Kanno is like a computer without a monitor.
Re:What about US cartoons? (Score:1)
PSX game (Score:1)
general anime tip (Score:1)
Re:It fits. Really! (Score:1)
I suggest that you look for (as you appear to like sf, mecha and deep, or at least cool plots):
Re:What's with the Anime? (Score:2)
You can turn off the Anime category in your preferences you know. Personally I'd like to see a poll like:
Anime
1. Love it
2. Ambivalient
3. Hate it
4. Huh?
Just to get an idea of the demographics on Slashdot.
Anime and slashdot (Score:2)
Listen don't read the damn aritcle if you don't like the subject matter.
I think that including articles about subjects that do not strictly meet computer interests is a helpful and interesting diversion. I don't get into Star Trek even when the whole TNG thing was in full swing. I do like Star Wars however. I am not into the physics/hard science articles but a lot of folks are. The idea that anime should not be included is in my opinion silly.
If some people are embarrased by stereotypes of anime fans fine, don't read the article but whining all over the boards about it is silly.
Re:Faye? No way (Score:1)
A lot of the animals of the series I seem to really like
Double J. Strictly for the . . .
Re:fan service - more than T & A (Score:1)
"Fan Service" is more than gratuitous titillation. It is the art of the
Inside Joke, or insider information that is designed to appeal most to
the hardcore fans of that particular anime series or genre.
In "Cop show/ Detective" anime, there is usually one character who always carries
the coolest guns, and can go into great descriptive detail as to the design an
capabilities of each weapon / device they use or encounter.
In "Magic girl / Idol" shows, as much emphasis can be placed on the fashion
choices of the characters as is put on their transformations.
In Auto Racing shows (Initial D) - a large amount of dialog is expended by
guys drooling over the souped up features of their respective street racers.
In "Hacker" anime (Serial Expirements Lain) the audience is presented with
drool-worthy examples of seamless desktop to network to net-device integration.
All of these stories all make an effort to appeal to some deep-seating desire
in their target audience, but all do so by appealing to our interests in
different ways.
Re:fan service (Score:1)
That said, Neon Genesis Evangelion is a special case. The point, often missed, is that the "fan service" aspect of the series one of the many anime cliches that the viewer is invited to re-consider.
Seems like that would make a good template (Score:2)
public:
requestRemove(Topic topic);
inline int getInterestLevel(Topic topic) { return 0; }
inline bool checkNerdFactor(Topic topic) { return false; }
}
my suggestion? delete bitchNWhine;
but i guess that's just cuz it interests me...
There's a reason you are an anonymous coward, no? (Score:1)
Re:Its official.. (Score:2)
Anime !== Animated porn (Score:1)
If you like hentai anime... (Score:2)
Re:This is off topic. Get back on topic. -nt- (Score:1)
Re:It's official, there are a bunch of jerks on /. (Score:1)
Re:i LOVE that series! (Score:1)
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Re:Where's Kanno? (Score:1)
So let me get this perfectly straight. Fox, which is airing Escaflowne dubbed into English, has CUT OUT the original soundtrack?
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are they out of their FUCKING _*MINDS*_? It's one of the best OSTs around!
Please tell me that I'm misinterpreting this, and that they didn't replace the soundtrack with some mindless synthesized crap.
how cool! (Score:1)
cowboy bebop rocks! (and escaflowne was and still is one of my favorites...)
Re:What's with the Anime? (Score:1)
1. Slashdot is "News for Nerds, Stuff that matters".
2. What good "nerd" hasn't enjoyed at least a couple of good anime movies, or railed against bad ones?
3. As part of our cultural zeitgeist, anime does "matter", because it shapes and is shaped by the world around us.
Therefore, anime belongs on Slashdot.
DVD hypocracy (Score:1)
Let's stop talking about DVDs or just end the hypocracy and have Slashdot come out in favor of the DMCA.
Re:Where's Kanno? (Score:1)
Slashdot supports, among other things, the ability to embolden text, and the ability to italicize text (which I don't normally use, because it takes more work).
But italicized text is not necessarily cursive. Cursive script is quite different from Roman rustic script. (which we'd now call printing) The letters were simplified after the fall of Rome, particularly with regards to how frequently one's pen had to be picked up. And the Carolingian scribes developed mixed-case script.
Italics, came later. The Italian scribe Niccolo Niccoli mistook Carolingian texts for ancient Roman texts in the 15th century. And liking the natural slant of the blackletter script (which is commonly observed in handwriting) combined it with the letterforms of the ancient rustic script.
While some letters are quite similar between cursive script and Venitian italics (e.g. f, g, k and s) italics are otherwise dissimilar.
The most visible dissimilarity in the modern day is that cursive script letters are typically connected within words (and sometimes even between words) to further improve writing efficiency. Print letters are almost never connected, with the exception of ligatures (eg if) as this was the style of the ancient Romans. However, even modern typefaces, such as all of the sans serif faces can be italicized merely by skewing them to the right.
So anyway, while Slashdot supports the bold tag, there's no such thing as a cursive tag. Thus we can safely conclude that you sir, are the moron of this particular thread.
I love CowBoy Bebop! (Score:1)
The problem with Anime (Score:1)
Re:First two? (Score:1)
This sucks.... (Score:4)
<Insert topic here> shouldn't be on slashdot, I don't like <topic>, nor do I have any interest in <topic>. I am a nerd, and <topic> doesn't matter to me at all. I shouldn't have to log in to slashdot to filter out <topic> because after all I am a nerd and since <topic> doesn't matter to me, it is just filler. I mean you would think that this was Rob's site or something.
</sarcasm>
Vermifax
Re:What's with the Anime? (Score:2)
Re:Misc. (Score:1)
I'm surprised Katz hasn't posted one of his 'witty' reviews of it.
Re:I'm sorry... (Score:1)
1) Cowboy Bebop is a very good anime that ran on TV in Japan recently. More recently, Bandai has been releasing it on DVD in the US (translated - dubs and subs are available). Ex is an online magazine about anime, manga and other related subjects. (e.g. anime-based video games)
Tons of nifty bits including some spoilers (they are obscured, so if you, like me, haven't seen the 2 DVDs that haven't yet been released in the US, don't worry) as well as the revelation that the script is written for the Bebop movie.
2)There's a lot of interesting information for fans of the show. But some of this information could potentially spoil your enjoyment of the show if you aren't already thoroughly familiar with it (e.g. finding out that Darth Vader is Luke's father before seeing the movie) and has been hidden so that you won't find out unless you want to. Additionally, four of the planned six DVDs have been released in the US. The remaining two will be out by October. Lastly, a movie is planned (it's not a sequel though - it takes place in between some of the TV episodes).
Tons of great Fay fan service for CowboyNeal too.
3) Faye [Valentine] is one of the main characters - the interview has a couple of pictures of her butt, which CowboyNeal will certainly appreciate ;)
Re:What's with the Anime? (Score:1)