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LinuxOne Releases a Product
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CmdrTaco
on Tue Nov 02, 1999 04:58 PM
from the you-gotta-be-kidding dept.
from the you-gotta-be-kidding dept.
Andrew G. Feinberg noted that Linux Today has a bit about LinuxOne releasing something. They are no longer vaporware: 'Linux Lite' is a distribution, and its selling point is that it coexists with windows and doesn't require any partitioning. Definitely nice for the novice, but there sure is a lot of hype in that press release for what seems to amount to using umsdos and a bootloader that loads the kernel from under windows?
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Whoa, TWO products! (Score:3)
http://www.linuxone.net/products/products.html#
it looks kinda, um, dodgy. apparently will let you transfer files off a mac hard drive from linux. Wow!! They call it the "original solution in file transfer between Macintosh and Linux", which is a truly amazing statement to make since linux has supported HFS (and for that matter appletalk) for a long time. although it seems that the "linuxmac" thing is an actual program that moves files between drives within the program, kinda like the already-existing "linuxdisks" tool for mac, or the ancient pc->mac file converter way back in system 6 for that matter.. On the other hand, there are the already-existing linux HFS drivers where you can simply mount the mac cd/floppies as normal drives.. And which linuxone doesn't go to the bother of mentioning, although i'll bet they raided code from them.
Of course, it's possible that this linuxmac also does HFS+ drives (which would be a complete Godsend) but i seriously doubt it.
Considering the extreme lies-through-omission on this one small product, i doubt anything else linuxone says can be taken seriously..
Check out MiniLinux (Score:3)
I think it's still mirrored at cdrom.com, does pretty much the same thing, fits on four floppies, IRRC. My first install for Linux, didn't know much at the time.
Still, I thought it was pretty cool.
... Presenting... LinuxNULL(tm) (Score:4)
Have you ever wanted a linux distribution so simple you didn't even need to use a mouse? A linux distribution so simple even a lobotomized flatworm could understand it's installation instructions? Presenting.... LinuxNULL(tm)(r)(c)!
Package includes a CD packed using our patented ReMark technology. Now you can have 100% file compression /without/ the wait! Also includes 1 year of free support courtesy of the Benevolent Operators For Helplines. If you act now we'll also include a special-edition doll of Richard Stallman, creator of "that other movement"! No longer do you need to step your l^Husers through a long and tedious install - with our patented RM technology you'll wipe out all the problems those other operating systems have.
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Vapourware. (Score:4)
From the press release: "Xclock2000 shows our committment to the Linux community by providing the clock necessary to finally bring Linux to the desktop. Features such as 7 independant clock arms, multi-threading and expanded support for the times 2:30 and 7:15 finally bring the concept of clock to the 21st century."
The Linuxone IPO, scheduled for next week, is expected to bring in over $75 to the company. Money the company says will be used to expand their product line in the area of "weed, cocaine or something like that."
Hotnutz.com [hotnutz.com]
Re:... Presenting... LinuxNULL(tm) (Score:3)
bofh: try 'make'
luser: I did that, but it didn't work!
bofh: oh, you want to re-make everything, then: try rm *
...
bofh: and if you're in a hurry, then use the 'really fast' option: -rf
Hissssssss. (Score:4)
But then, I'm an obnoxious opinonated, vindictive b*stard at times. {evil grin}
As others have noted, there's a remarkably informative "Register" article, with perhaps the one oddity that instead of mooching directly off of RedHat, the *few* *all-binary* packages that they've made available for FTP all bear tell-tale "mdk.i586.rpm" extensions, as far as I can tell.
"The Company's extensions to the Linux software kernel will rapidly distinguish its products from all other available Linux software"... well, er, it's GPLed. If it's good, the patches can be used by others. If it's not... needing an eye-patch or a dialysis machine is distinctive, too.
There's also no mention of the licensing on their FTP site, as far as I can tell -- which, according to Netcraft, runs RH.
Their documents on the web site are badly-written and inconsistent. Parts glorify (?!) the ability to work w/o partitioning, while the latter stage figures prominently in their installation instructions... Perhaps that's their "full" LinuxOne OS, and not "Lite", 'tho.
Their web site *strongly* implies that most of the features are *their* features, and not common to most distros.
"Most useful and complete"? Um, no; not unless you're shipping a multiple-CD collection.
"No lost data, no confusion, and no chance for a disk drive disaster"? How, precisely, does *sharing* an existing partition with an OS that is not designed to coexist, and thus can manipulate the filesystem at will, promote stability? Argh. If you want stability, you *isolate* things. Not funky multi-function boards; not strange combos of OSes and filesystems; and so forth. If it dies one day, who's to blame -- Windows file corruption? LinuxOne? The foibles of a novice?
"Simply type 'reboot'" -- are they dropping people into a root shell, without any mention of normal user accounts?
...and, for the Mac...
"All functions available through the computer's mouse."
Right. So, write a Perl5 module for parsing and comparing Bayes Nets, using a single-button mouse.
'cuse me while I go chortling hideously into the night...
The world isn't full of us nerds... (Score:3)
So, having said that, I'm confused. First off, let me say that I am (gasp) not a Linux user. Sorry. I'm too enmeshed in the Windows world to put up with the trouble of dual booting all the time.
All I've seen here is folks bashing LinuxOne. I've been reading Slashdot for about 2 years now, and have always seen the
We all know that the vast majority of computer users are somewhat intimidated by Linux. Installation reviews that appear are contradictory - some installs go smoothly and easily, and some seem to go poorly. A person who is considering installing Linux, just to "see what all the hype is about" just might do that, simply because of the spin that LinuxOne is putting on their distro. Granted, it's nothing new, but hell folks - what in this world is new? Look around and see what new and fancy items that appear are just the same old thing with a new little twist.
Tech businesses today have a difficult job - the world is full of niches, and the easiest to fill are those that complement a larger niche. Riding the wave of success of another product is far easier than creating a whole new "next big thing". LinuxOne is attempting to do that. They may have a history of vaporware in the past, but there's a distro now, and it looks to me like it could really help Linux at the desktop level. It might not be anything "new", but success is largely marketing and spin, and LinuxOne seems to have that under control.
This LinuxLite may just be the next big thing - who, at this point, can really tell?
Making the world safe for Linux IPOs! (Score:3)
In order for RHAT to start talking about developing further software, they had to get hundreds of millions of dollars invested, and waste considerable time planning.
In contrast, LinuxOne has moved rapidly to deploy the results of the $250 that they raised.
They have clearly achieved their goal of unchallenged availability of applications and platform support, which no other IP has been able to accomplish.