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Bill Dog's Journal: How do UNIX/Linux people make web applications? 17

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I'm trying to make sense of the dizzying array of languages/technologies purportedly used in the customer-facing portion of the HealthCare.gov site. I understand ASP.NET, JSP, and JavaServer Faces to be web templating engines, comprising 39 files. I don't see PHP or ColdFusion listed. And there's 1635 HTML files. It doesn't seem like all of these could be just static content.

It's possible a lot of them could get their dynamic data via AJAX, and maybe that's what a lot of the XSLT is for. But I think most people these days move JSON back and forth and not XML. But in any event, how are placeholders in the HTML files getting replaced? There's only 23 files between Perl and Python, and 248 Bourne shell files, so are they using [showing my age/what little I know] SED and/or AWK to do this? Or would the .sh's be calling the Perl and Python files?

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How do UNIX/Linux people make web applications?

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  • At what point did you think HealthCare.gov was a serious application?
    • by Bill Dog (726542)

      When I saw the price tag? ;)

      • That's when you knew you should buy stock in personal lubricants.
        • by Bill Dog (726542)

          The sad thing is, I personally am probably going to need socialized medicine, as I'll be 48 this year and I'm still a mere programmer. And just three years ago started over in new tech/definitely not a senior engineer in what I'm doing now. So I could be unemployable after my current job, and far from eligibility for SS and Medicare.

          And with insurance premiums (necessarily) skyrocketing, along with my age, I wouldn't be able to afford getting my own health insurance as I've done in the past. So while I'm p

          • Well, if we're going to just roll over and let the Commies win, then just screw us to the wall.
            • by Bill Dog (726542)

              To me it's about what I estimate are the likelihoods of things. Commies have made themselves the cool kids in America, and I don't see a chance of that changing until another generation or two. That is, I think there's a chance that your grandchildren, or their children, with having grown up knowing only a stagnant and repressive and dismal America, might hear as adults of how America used to be for the many generations before the 1950's and 1960's when Progressives really starting reformulating the Ameri

          • Move to Texas.
            • by Bill Dog (726542)

              The thought has crossed my mind, but one thing about leaving California is that I'm used to the natural disaster types that I know. I'm not afraid of earthquakes, although the wildfires are getting awfully troubling. But I'm hesitant to live somewhere flat, as tornados and floods must royally suck.

              Oh and I hate country music. Otherwise, I'd probably make a decent resident I guess, in that I vote right, and want to work.

              • But I'm hesitant to live somewhere flat, as tornados and floods must royally suck.

                Flooding isn't that big of an issue here in DFW. Tornados... well, they can hit anywhere, and the probability is still extremely low that you'll get hit with one.

                Oh and I hate country music.

                As do I, my friend. As. Do. I.

                Fortunately, Texas -- especially here in Dallas / Fort Worth -- attracts the major rock shows as well.

                Another reason for you to consider the move -- we have a mini Silicon Valley in the Los Colinas
                • by Bill Dog (726542)

                  Just stay away from Austin, right? I've heard it's a big tech hub in Texas, but I've also gathered it's kinda your San Francisco. (I.e. very much the "land of the fruits, nuts, and flakes". And maybe fairly ageist in tech.)

                  Dang, I just did a search on Dice in the Dallas metro area, and there's three times the ASP.NET jobs as in my area.

                  • Austin can't touch Las Colinas for tech jobs. Part of the reason is a bunch of morons think Austin is this "cool liberal city" so tech jobs there pay far less than they do in Dallas, because, hey, you should take less money, comrade, after all, you get to live in Austin, dude.

                    Austin is what passes for a liberal toilet in Texas.
  • Java, PHP, mod_perl, Django, node.js, Flask. I'm sure there's more. I'm not much of a web developer, thankfully. None of the above constitutes endorsement. 3 of them I actively hate working with. Which three are an exercise left to the reader. :-)

    • by Bill Dog (726542)

      Well the most disparaged in that list are Java, JavaScript, and PHP, so my guess is you're a Perl and Python person. (Assuming that you're more a sysadmin type than a developer, which is more likely on Slashdot)

      (And my second guess is that you're a Java person, and hate PHP, Perl, and JavaScript, if you're more developer than sysadmin.)

      • by rk (6314)

        I'm a software engineer, but I don't care for Java. I like python, perl is meh, I despise PHP, and JS isn't as bad as people seem to think (working with the DOM is a mess, but that's not JS's fault). Frankly, I've not found a web development technology I really like yet. Fortunately, I don't have to do much of that being a systems software guy. When I do, I hold my nose and get it done.

        I've been using Go lately, which has a couple warts but also some cool things (defer is simply brilliant). Also plinking wi

  • by chill (34294)

    I'd be surprised if there wasn't a JBoss or Tomcat back end in there somewhere. And while JSON is popular with the web crowd, XML still rules when dealing with back end processing and transformation. There are since powerful enterprise tools that can do XML but far fewer that know what JSON is.

    • by Bill Dog (726542)

      "Powerful enterprise tools" and lots of XML is why I'm glad I ran away from Java early on.

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