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Journal damn_registrars's Journal: Another Smitty Conspiracy Bubbles Up! 50

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I don't know if something happened to his turkey at Thanksgiving, but Smitty is now proudly parading a new anti-Biden conspiracy here on slasdhot for us:

BHO stayed in DC after DJT was sworn in to manage the anti-Trump resistance, and then install a meat puppet in 2020.

Because apparently now it is a crime for anyone who is not of the Trump-publican party to ever be seen in Washington DC after they are no longer an elected official. Does this mean that the images of Obama surfing in Hawaii after the dawn of the Trump Administration were deepstate fakes? And that he never actually moved back to the Chicago area at all? And that he didn't actually fly to Davos? How many body doubles are out running around in place of Obama to distract us from this air-tight conspiracy?

And more importantly, how many of Trump's failures can be blamed on this directly?

Of course, don't forget that this all ties to Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Don't forget about that scary, scary, scary, oh-so-very scary, I-hope-you're-super-duper-terrified-now, scary, did-I-mention-scary, middle name!

In a more rational universe, the GOP would be trying to run a competent and intelligent candidate for POTUS. Instead they have a fascist idiot running on his ego, whipping his cult into a frenzy.

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  • It's more anti-BHO than Biden. Zombie Joe, being more dead than alive at this point, is really not a fair target.

    a crime for anyone who is not of the Trump-publican party to ever be seen in Washington DC

    How many healthy prior Presidents violated precedent and purchased a residence and stayed on in DC after their term?

    • a crime for anyone who is not of the Trump-publican party to ever be seen in Washington DC

      How many healthy prior Presidents violated precedent

      So now precedent matters? Or does it only matter when discussing people who are not from Your Team? After all, your own Dear Leader violated precedent by both not conceding the 2020 election to the winner and not staying in DC for the inauguration of the leader.

      and purchased a residence and stayed on in DC after their term?

      He was a Senator before he was POTUS, perhaps you forgot that? He has connections in DC. His daughters were also enrolled in a private school in DC while he was POTUS, perhaps he wanted them to be able to stay there?

      Considering how many pic

      • Your reply essentially confesses to understanding that precedent has been violated. Thank you.
        • That is a very strange precedent, that I had never heard of before you brought it up. Why would such a precedent exist, and how can you demonstrate that it ever did? Did you ever look up how many times GHWB visited his son GWB while he was POTUS? You wouldn't accept anyone calling the two terms of GWB as being second and third terms for GHWB, yet Sr. was at the White House very often during Jr's administration.

          I'm not yet sure that you didn't make up this precedent, or parrot it from someone who them

          • how can you demonstrate that it ever did?

            Check the biographies and find out that Presidents prior to BHO had the good taste to get out of Dodge when done. This has been done by, for example, Presidential Historians. The real-world Truth that BHO hung around to run a shadow presidency sits before the open eye.

            • The real-world Truth that BHO hung around to run a shadow presidency sits before the open eye.

              So then where are the White House logs showing him coming in to the White House regularly to make executive decisions? Or is the "deep state" concealing these for some great nefarious reasons?

              You could just recognize that

              • He actually likes Washington DC
                • and
              • His daughters had not both graduated high school before the end of his term, and he wanted to keep them in the same school (as he had announced before the end of his second term)

              Or you can keep spouting this new conspiracy instead.

              • Please. The minions in the Admin are conduits. Why be so crass as to show up in person?
                • That's a nice addition to your conspiracy there. If he doesn't need to show up, then why bother owning property there? He's handled digital correspondence for decades now; he could certainly communicate with this "minions" by zoom or other manners if he wanted to.

                  I think you just painted yourself into a corner.

                  • why bother owning property

                    Oh, please! Ownership is passé. It's all control these days. But you know that.

                    • That's a nice addition to your conspiracy there. If he doesn't need to show up, then why bother owning property there? He's handled digital correspondence for decades now; he could certainly communicate with this "minions" by zoom or other manners if he wanted to.

                      Oh, please! Ownership is passé. It's all control these days. But you know that.

                      How does owning property there lead to control? There is nothing that a house gets him that he couldn't have through digital correspondence. Your conspiracy doesn't make any sense, it's less well rooted than the plan of the underpants gnomes.

                    • There is nothing that a house gets him that he couldn't have through digital correspondence.

                      Shirley you can't be so thick as to think that there would be a paper trail?

                    • There is nothing that a house gets him that he couldn't have through digital correspondence.

                      you can't be so thick as to think that there would be a paper trail?

                      You can't visit the White House without leaving one. If he's running this "shadow government" without going there, then why own a house in DC? Might as well set it up somewhere else entirely.

                      Seriously this latest conspiracy of yours has more holes than a colander. It's basically tinfoil hat material; I've seen better arguments for bigfoot.

                    • you can't be so thick as to think that there would be a paper trail?

                      You can't visit the White House without leaving one.

                      To say nothing of the powder trail Your Team leaves.

                      why own a house in DC? Might as well set it up somewhere else entirely.

                      Vulgar display of power.

                    • you can't be so thick as to think that there would be a paper trail?

                      You can't visit the White House without leaving one.

                      To say nothing of the powder trail Your Team leaves.

                      As if nobody from Your Team has ever used cocaine? Regardless, your conspiracy about the cocaine being planted to take out the VP has pretty clearly deteriorated into nothing - not that it was built on anything resembling facts or reality to begin with.

                      why own a house in DC? Might as well set it up somewhere else entirely.

                      Vulgar display of power.

                      So we agree then, you have nothing to base your conspiracy on. Got it. No part of this newest conspiracy of yours ties to reality in any way. You're just helping Your Team remind each other to be so very afraid of the former POTUS with the scary middle n

                    • your conspiracy

                      Oh, YES! Flog that dead horse! You flog! Flog now!

                      base

                      Yes, I would agree that BHO uses the DC residence as a base to control Zombie Joe's administration.

                    • your conspiracy

                      Oh, YES! Flog that dead horse! You flog! Flog now!

                      You have zero factual support for the conspiracy you are selling. That makes it conspiratorial. We have agreed that everything you are claiming pertaining to the cocaine being some sort of weird inside power grab is indeed based on nothing at all, and we have seen that it ultimately led to nothing at all. It was just a conspiracy you were selling, and at this point we should be able to agree it was only that. It has not materialized into anything, nor at this point will it.

                      base

                      Yes, I would agree that BHO uses the DC residence as a base

                      Why do you make that claim,

                    • We also didn't have any evidence that Covid came from the Wuhan lab. Yet it did. When you team is utterly false, it loses all credibility, and bolsters the obvious supposition that BHO obtained a residence in DC first to harass Trump; then, to control Zombie Joe once the 2020 election was "managed".
                    • So you have zero supporting evidence for your conspiracy. Thank you for sharing. And just like so many others that you have been sold on - and tried to resell to others - it is conveniently crafted to be near-impossible to ever disprove. Even if Obama left tonight on the first manned trip to Mars you would still claim he was running a "shadow government" from outer space, and there would be no way to disprove the allegation.

                    • We also didn't have any evidence that Covid came from the Wuhan lab.

                      We do now? Absolute, irrefutable, cold hard physical, take it to court, evidence?

                    • We also didn't have any evidence that Covid came from the Wuhan lab.

                      We do now? Absolute, irrefutable, cold hard physical, take it to court, evidence?

                      Of course not! Smitty's team lives in the post-truth reality, where thing become true through gut feelings and repetition. They don't need to prove anything as long as they really, really, really believe in it! It will become true on its own.

                    • Of course not! Smitty's team lives in the post-truth reality

                      Of course. Your Team has created a reality wherein the Hamas butchers are somehow the Good Guys.

                    • Of course not! Smitty's team lives in the post-truth reality

                      Of course. Your Team has created a reality wherein the Hamas butchers are somehow the Good Guys.

                      Has it occurred to you - even for a moment - that perhaps in this conflict maybe bothsides have done awful things and both sides have legitimate grievances? I have never claimed Hamas to be the "Good Guys" here, and only Your Team has claimed to be aware of one side to be fully in the right on this matter.

                    • Ah, the sweet, sweet "both sides" arguement.

                      Quick: look a the balance of the U.N. resolutions involving Israel and terrorists and tell me the "both sides" argument is something other than pure bollocks.

                      It's bollocks; you know it's bollocks, but you lack the intellectual integrity to call bollocks "bollocks".
                    • Now, for this conflict, you care about the UN? I've seen you and others from Your Team harp on them before. Now that you think they agree with you, you are enthusiastically pushing them as arbiters of truth.

                      Please pay attention to what I wrote before you go assuming things that are not there. I didn't say they are equally awful, just that both sides have done awful things to the other. Furthermore both sides have been victimized. That is not at all the same as what you keep accusing me of.

                    • Now, for this conflict, you care about the UN?

                      Insofar as the U.N. demonstrates your equivalent moral bankruptcy, sure.

                    • While you divert further I will instead return to how I closed my previous comment

                      I didn't say they are equally awful, just that both sides have done awful things to the other. Furthermore both sides have been victimized. That is not at all the same as what you keep accusing me of.

                      You can insist on taking a binary view of the situation if you want. To me there are many shades of grey here that need to be evaluated. The conflict needs to be resolved with a two state solution, but both sides need to come to the table for that to happen.

                    • The conflict needs to be resolved with a two state solution

                      That approach just generated a mass murder. Whatever is to be said needs to begin with the acknowledgement that all of the "two-state" talk has been an utter failure. Billions of dollars were spent brainwashing a couple million people in Gaza into completely monstrous behavior. Improvement starts with confession, repentance, and rejection of what has failed.

                      I used to think that the least-worst approach would be to declare Israeli territory to include the West Bank and Gaza, and the inhabitants of all thre

                    • The conflict needs to be resolved with a two state solution

                      That approach just generated a mass murder.

                      You're simply wrong there. Since the founding of the modern state of Israel there has not been a working two state solution implemented. For the past few decades it has been one state - Israel - telling the other state what it can and cannot do. That is not a two-state solution.

                      Improvement starts with confession, repentance, and rejection of what has failed.

                      The failure is on the expectation that the Palestinians should accept eternal damnation at the hands of the Israeli government. The Palestinians did nothing to warrant this treatment. They have some leaders who have nothing le

                    • The conflict needs to be resolved with a two state solution

                      That approach just generated a mass murder.

                      You're simply wrong there.

                      No, really: an atrocity occurred on 07Oct.

                      For the past few decades it has been one state - Israel - telling the other state what it can and cannot do.

                      Part of you overarching challenge is your Western cultural arrogance that asserts you understand their motives, and that "Western reason" applies, and that this diplomatic process will bear fruit. How many times do things like the Oslo Accords have to be broken off in the Western backside for us to get past the PolyAnna antics?

                      It is entirely permissible, strongly encouraged, even, to follow the Sermon on the Mount in your personal life and dealings with your immed

                    • The conflict needs to be resolved with a two state solution

                      That approach just generated a mass murder.

                      You're simply wrong there.

                      No, really: an atrocity occurred on 07Oct.

                      What happened on October 7th was not the result of a two-state solution, but rather the product of the absence of one. Only Israel had any control over its destiny under the way that the treaties up to that point were enforced. The people of Gaza and the West Bank were captives of Israel, with no economic, political, or geographic mobility.

                      Now, they certainly could have tried other options, but they had very few due in large part to the way they were controlled by Israel.

                      But you cannot blame a tw

                    • What happened on October 7th was not the result of a two-state solution, but rather the product of the absence of one.

                      No, actually, a bunch of barbarians ran amok and committed atrocities. Your incapability of stating the blunt truth and holding murders accountable is morally degenerate and unacceptable.

                      The Israelis have been presented with a zero-sum game, and are, thankfully, showing maximal restraint in applying chemotherapy to a cancer. If this fundamental truth escapes you, then it is not clear what remains to discuss.

                    • What happened on October 7th was not the result of a two-state solution, but rather the product of the absence of one.

                      No, actually, a bunch of barbarians ran amok and committed atrocities. Your incapability of stating the blunt truth and holding murders accountable is morally degenerate and unacceptable.

                      Your incapability of reading what I actually write - and inserting instead what you want to see me say - makes this discussion quite difficult.

                      I never once said that there should be no consequence for the October 7th invasion.

                      The point I have repeatedly raised though is that the Israeli occupation and socio-economic domination of the Palestinians has left them with a hopeless situation. All that has happened since then is continuation of the endless cycle of violence we have seen there for many dec

                    • The point I have repeatedly raised though is that the Israeli occupation and socio-economic domination of the Palestinians has left them with a hopeless situation. All that has happened since then is continuation of the endless cycle of violence we have seen there for many decades now. Violence will never resolve the situation.

                      This is the essence of what is wrong with your analysis.

                      • socio-economic domination--I presume that you are aware that Palestinians were given work permits to enter Israel and perform tasks, which access was leveraged to devlop intel used on the attck.
                      • has left them with a hopeless situation--trivially refuted. There was copious hope placed in violence and global demonstrations to browbeat the Israelis into surrender.
                      • Violence will never resolve the situation--sure it can. The Middle Eastern view is that a

                    • socio-economic domination--I presume that you are aware that Palestinians were given work permits to enter Israel and perform tasks, which access was leveraged to devlop intel used on the attck.

                      You missed a couple very important bits here.

                      • First, the permits were at the discretion of Israel
                      • Second, very few were available or issued
                      • Third, even fewer people were allowed to leave the area entirely

                      Granted, that lines up well with the same kind of utter domination that Your Team and Your Dear Leader want to have over Americans who they disagree with, so I can see why you endorse it so whole-heartedly.

                      has left them with a hopeless situation--trivially refuted. There was copious hope placed in violence and global demonstrations to browbeat the Israelis into surrender.

                      The Palestinians couldn't defeat Israel with violence even if they all invested 100% in it. They don

                    • If this was about Islam you might have a chance at a point there. Unfortunately for you this is not about Islam.

                      I mean, it's literally baked into the name: ams [wikipedia.org] an acronym of its official name, the Islamic Resistance Movement ( arakat al-Muqwamah al-Islmiyyah)

                      Violence will never resolve the situation--sure it can. The Middle Eastern view is that any amount of violence inflicted upon infidels is acceptable in the name of Allah.
                      Your Team has got to get past the idea of perpetuating evil if the world is to attain peace.

                      You are the one who just endorsed violence as a way to resolve the situation.

                      That was an acknowledgement of the realpolitik on offer, not an endorsement of violence. My view is closer to "Peace through superior firepower". Don't start none; won't be none.

                      There was peace on 06Jan.

                      No, there wasn't. You can't have peace with that kind of oppression in place.

                      Thanks for not pouncing on my typo for 06Oct. That day was as peaceful as things are going to get. The West's notion of imposing peace on the region--two state or otherwise--is one that

                    • If this was about Islam you might have a chance at a point there. Unfortunately for you this is not about Islam.

                      I mean, it's literally baked into the name: ams an acronym of its official name, the Islamic Resistance Movement ( arakat al-Muqwamah al-Islmiyyah)

                      Yes, they - Hamas - are Muslim. But Islam is not about violence and war. Islam is not any more pro-war than is Christianity. We could easily point to an endless series of wars started in the name of Christianity, but I wouldn't expect you to stand for me calling Christianity pro-violence or pro-war.

                      You are the one who just endorsed violence as a way to resolve the situation.

                      That was an acknowledgement of the realpolitik on offer, not an endorsement of violence. My view is closer to "Peace through superior firepower". Don't start none; won't be none.

                      That works only in situations where the people on both sides are letting each other live out their lives. Israel is not allowing Gaza or the West Bank to do that. Israel controls immigration, trade, educat

                    • We could easily point to an endless series of wars started in the name of Christianity

                      To. What. Current. Conflict. Can. You. Point? Pretty sure you can't, and this is just more typically shoddy analysis from Your Team.

                      Israel is not allowing Gaza or the West Bank to do that.

                      Israel ejected from Gaza ~15 years ago. They voted in Hamas. They've taken billions of aid and abused it. And Your Team fellates the evil ones.

                      For 15 years Israel has prohibited Gaza from holding elections. Let that sink in for a moment.

                      Again, Israel ejected from Gaza ~15 years ago. And I understand that Your Team fetishes the canonizing of evil people into secular saints. But this is literally the first I've heard of Israel somehow impeding elections in an area that it

                    • We could easily point to an endless series of wars started in the name of Christianity

                      To. What. Current. Conflict. Can. You. Point? Pretty sure you can't, and this is just more typically shoddy analysis from Your Team.

                      We're still in Iraq, after our second invasion. We came up with a rotating list of hair-brained excuses to invade, but in the end it was likely as much about religion as anything.

                      There are plenty of other conflicts around the world that are Christians vs someone else as well, with ample religious justification behind them. Even if you ignore that, you aren't actually going to ignore WWII, WWI, the US Civil War, the Crusades, or hundreds of others that I didn't list are you?

                      Israel ejected from Gaza ~15 years ago.

                      Though Israel controls all t

                    • We could easily point to an endless series of wars started in the name of Christianity

                      To. What. Current. Conflict. Can. You. Point? Pretty sure you can't, and this is just more typically shoddy analysis from Your Team.

                      We're still in Iraq, after our second invasion.

                      Wait, what? Are you making some sort of equation between U.S. foreign policy and the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Crusades [wikipedia.org]? Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding your point.

                      Though Israel controls all the crossings in and out of Gaza.

                      Trivially refuted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_Border_Crossing [wikipedia.org].

                      Israel does not allow Palestinians who live in Jerusalem to vote in Gaza elections

                      Not seeing your point https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-country-reports-on-human-rights-practices/israel-west-bank-and-gaza/west-bank-and-gaza/ [state.gov]

            • The real-world Truth that BHO hung around to run a shadow presidency sits before the open eye.

              :-) So, like, what's HRC now? Chopped liver?

              • The real-world Truth that BHO hung around to run a shadow presidency sits before the open eye.

                :-) So, like, what's HRC now? Chopped liver?

                I suspect his next conspiracy will be that they are actually the same person, in disguise. Move that all-important (and all-terrifying!) H from Obama's middle name over to the left - after all they can only move left! - and you get the first letter of her first name! Then add C, and O and get R - very extra scary too! Then look for the letter like B in the Cyrillic alphabet, transpose it to Aramaic, squint really hard while looking at modern Arabic, stand on your head while burning incense and listening

              • HRC is less undead than Zombie Joe. I try to keep in mind that the unreasoning personal hatred that some have for DJT (as opposed to my general 'Meh') may resemble the visceral fear of HRC that I harbor (transferred PTSD from my uncle's psychotic first wife).

                I've encountered more than one person who served in/around the White House during the Clinton terms who were highly negative toward Her Majesty.

                In stark contrast, the personal loyalty toward Trump for those (non-public figures) who supported has bee

                • DJT/HRC... the similarities are uncanny... equally repulsive (yet received 98% of the vote)... joined at the hips... BHO is a sheepdog, like Sanders...

                  • the similarities are uncanny...

                    Again, from people who have served around them as staffers (and I've encountered at least two from each) the anecdotal evidence is opposite.

                    As far as speeches go, HRC at least offers a coherent train of thought, if you can get past the grating Karen tone.

                    DJT is a stack of bumper stickers that was hit by a stiff breeze. Whether this is due to complete idiocy (d_r's telling) or his need to posture as "one of the guys" (likely true as posturing, but also revealing himself as an insider's insider) is for the

                    • You will, like d_r, tell me that I don't really mean what I have been saying for years...

                      Very presumptuous (and amusing) of you to continue to project d_r's and your own character upon me, I can only say that you have have picked a side and are following establishment protocol

                    • I guess that if the individual is a "side", then, yes. It's also helpful to know that I am the only one of the three of us (you and d_r are in agreement here) who seems to project. *snort*

                    • d_r is trippin' [slashdot.org]... but you guys do good shtick [youtu.be]

                    • Genuinely funny clip. Thanks.
                    • How much further removed from reality is it than any of smitty's current conspiracies? His last three main conspiracies were
                      • The White House cocaine was planted by the DNC to remove VP Harris from being VP for ... reasons
                      • President Lawnchair bought a house in DC after his Administration to do an especially terrible job of running a "shadow government" from right next to DC for ... reasons
                      • Biden has intentionally made no significant changes at the US-Mexico border to allow in terrorists and attacks on the US

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