Journal Profane MuthaFucka's Journal: List of moral values 21
I'll just give the answers away. These are the top moral values for both liberals and conservatives. Most political positions and rhetoric derives from these core values:
conservatives:
winning (top value)
physical strength
discipline
punishment
liberal:
community (top value)
cooperation
competence
tolerance
Also some will be interested in this:
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I Troll 2 Much (Score:1)
Down to "positive" - even when the editors post four of my stories FP - with the offensive Nick, and all.
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I was going to ask you what your "offensive Nick" is. But I figured maybe you only have one account here (as do I, BTW). I don't think most people (on Slashdot) would think your nick is offensive. As I've stated once in my journal entry, I often tell Moderators to "fuck off" when I post in Front Page stories, and yet I have never gone below Excellent Karma (except for the first two or three weeks that I've been here). BTW I'm trying to mellow out on insulting Moderators. It seems a bit too anti-social, even
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Only if you assume that the people with mood points are in any way virtuous.
Heh (Score:2)
Sweet.
Meh. (Score:2)
I usually just use empathy as the dividing line. Liberals have it (some of them have TOO much of it) and Conservatives generally don't. Tolerance and Cooperation come with empathy: hard to hate where there is understanding. The problem with the fucking liberals is that they're empathetic with EVERYONE, which kinda kills the whole unity thing. Which is fine, as long as there aren't too many conservatives.
Of course the conservatives are perfectly capable of cooperation, as long as you believe all the same shi
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Shortly after reading this JE I happened upon a news story by chance (just casually Web surfing), about (Republican) Andrew Thomas, who is a county prosecutor, which was referenced from http://www.badphoenixcops.com/So_What_s_My_Story_.html [badphoenixcops.com].
I figured it was an interesting read and on-topic, so I thought I'd share it.
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I forgot to add a URL I was referring to. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2008-02-28/news/andrew-thomas-maricopa-county-s-top-prosecutor-burnishes-his-wikipedia-page/ [phoenixnewtimes.com].
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Yes and no. The typical "liberal" has been so caricatured as some kind of drooling hippie, that even I get that mental image in my head when I hear or read the word.
Go find me some of those over-sensitive liberals and scratch a little harder, and I think you might find that underneath it all, it's just fucking people.
At the end of the day, the biggest sin both "sides" commit is that of laziness, not much more.
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There's a few of those liberals who are "over sensitive" and I think that's what drives the stereotype. It's a moral failure - not of liberal morality, but in the application.
Modeling this particular fault in terms of the family metaphor, we find a parent coddling a child when it's obvious that coddling is not the best approach. Or perhaps we find a wife enabling an alcoholic husband by making excuses for him and purchasing his alcohol.
The fault is a failure to be nurturing towards others in the community.
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There are various medical terms to describe those conditions. None of them have anything to do with morality.
OK, justify that statement. I think it's pretty clear that making a choice between buying beer for your alcoholic husband or getting him help is a moral decision, among other things.
Or how about moving to terminate an employee who is harmful to a department vs. providing them increased assistance to solve their problems? Some companies will assist and assist in misguided attempts to reform the unrefo
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Ah for fuck's sake, you are really not understanding what I wrote at all. You're treating two compatible domains as exclusive.
Nothing I have said is contradictory to morality fundamentally being all about survival.
You are doing your analysis at the wrong level. You insist on talking about the interface with morality and biology. I am talking about the interface with morality and politics.
So yes, there are biological reasons why some people are more concerned with winning and other people are more concerned
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You're not too far off, but one moral value doesn't give you the ability to understand nuances of position and rhetoric. Using more moral values gives you analytical power. You do have the sense that all the moral values are really contingent on a single moral value at the top. That's reasonably true.
I'll be elaborating on this more in future journal entries.
S&M (Score:2)
discipline
punishment
This explains why conservatives are so into kinky sex.
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I think you've got something here. Too bad you posted as Anonymous Coward.
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I'm sorry. I didn't know this was a whodunit.
It was really just a round-about-compliment. A bit less lame than saying "if I had mod points..." or something like that. You offer a unique perspective and insight that I was highlighting.
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You're being to limited. The model you're using is the authoritarian model which we are not discussing here. We're specifically talking about conservative and liberal political moralities.
The authoritarian and the libertarian cases are different and will be dealt with later. The authoritarian case is particularly interesting because understanding that will allow you to understand how the Republican party is decomposing itself into two relatively weaker branches, based on their basic moral views.
This probabl
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You're being to limited.
OMFG did I really make the to/too/two error?