Journal mcgrew's Journal: The end does NOT justify the means 43
Jews, Jehovah is pissed. Arabs, Allah is furious. Christians, God shall smite thee.
You're all a bunch of assholes. That includes me, too -- I admit it, I'm an asshole.
The last shall be the first, Christians. And like I said, I'm one of you, but even though I won't deny Christ, I'll deny YOU. Have you no brains? Will none of you pray for what Soloman prayed for? Do none of you ever read the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? Don't you even know what Jesus was all about?
First, you almost single handedly elected an alcoholic cocaine addict to the most powerful office on the face of the earth just because his political party lied, claimed to be Christians themselves, and told you that the Democrats were going to outlaw your bibles.
I've known cokeheads. Snorters are bad, smokers are worse, and shooters are the worst of all. It makes a person into a selfish, greedy, theiving liar. Cocaine explains the RIAA and the economic meltdown, as well as neocons. Financially successful cokeheads badmouth coke like closeted gays badmouth homosexuals, and I suspect that the crooks who brought the world's economies down grow and process it, smuggle it, and use it. The financial interests are the ones keeping it illegal, and the illegal drug industry is the only segment of the world's population that in any way benefit from the drug laws.
These people are thieves. You've heard of the $50B Madoff pyramid scheme, well he's not alone.
Federal agents arrested two principals of a Winnetka-based foreign-exchange futures dealer on fraud charges Wednesday, the Justice Department said.
The two men operated One World Capital Group, which was effectively shut down in December 2007 when the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, responding to complaints from customers unable to withdraw funds from their accounts, obtained a court order that froze the company's assets.
The government said customers lost roughly $15 million.
FBI agents arrested One World founder and President John Walsh at his Lake Forest home, said U.S. Atty. Patrick Fitzgerald. Charles Martin of Glencoe was arrested in the Los Angeles area. A criminal complaint unsealed Wednesday charges both men with one count of wire fraud.
The love of money is the root of all evil, and the love of cocaine is the root of much of the love of money.
A normal middle class guy who gets into coke will ruin himself financially. A man with a warehouse full of tons of the stuff won't, no matter how much he snorts, smokes (the only difference between coke and crack is the drug delivery method), or shoots. He'll ruin everyone else instead.
Then President Dufus (who you so-called "Christians" elected) ignored warnings from the previous administration and America was sucesssfully attacked. Bush, brain eaten up by his previous drug and alcohol use, used the attack to take away many of America's freedoms in the name of freedom.
Christ taught forgiveness above all else. "Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself". Yet you take it upon yourselves to assault abortion clinic workers, bomb clinics (thank God it's been a while since that happened), when it's none of your or my damned business. I'm sure a blastocyst isn't a child, your opinion may vary but it's just your OPINION. You have no scripture that says when a fetus is a child. Rather than trying to defend unborn "children" you should have been trying to defend already born children whose homes were being bombed in Iraq when the cokehead attacked it without provocation or rational reason.
You should have been trying to outlaw capital punishment. You guys want to wait until the fetus grows up and murders someone before performing the abortion! Thou shalt not kill, and I'm offended that the state executes human beings in my name. You should be, too.
Then you elected cokebrain alky again! You know what alcohol does to a person's liver, but the liver isn't all that drinking destroys. My friend Amy just got out of rehab, where the doctors diagnosed her with alcohol-induced brain damage, resulting in balance problems and memory loss. Kind of like George Bush.
Who you elected and re-elected. DUH! Now we're in an economic meltdown and the middle east is exploding because you elected and re-elected a brain damaged alcoholic. I guess you're going to elect Amy next time?
Speaking of Amy, the poor woman was out of rehab for two days before she went on a binge. I mentioned in the last journal she called, well that afternoon she called again and I missed the call. I called back, and Connor answered the phone, furious. He says they're done; he paid a bunch of money for her kids at Christmas, more than he spent on his own, and a bunch more money to get her into inpatient rehab in Quincy, nearly a hundred miles away, and she started drinking two days later.
She called again later that evening from Farley's begging me for a ride; he'd showed up there and slapped her around, and called the police accusing her of drugs. The poor man had gone crazy; I probably would have as well. I really feel sorry for the fool. She filed a police report on him for the incident. We went to my house to talk about it, and she took off from there and I haven't seen her since.
Brain damage.
Then there are the Arabs. You and the Jews are sons of Abraham, can't you boys get along without fighting? It's bad enough you keep killing each other, but you keep dragging the world into your messes.
You're both terrorists, Arab and Jew alike. I don't even have to list the Arab terrorism, you've been firing rockets at Israeli civilians for years. The Jews deserve a homeland; their lack of one let the Antichrist almost exterminate them during Armageddon (which is usually known as "World War Two"). Allah told you, through Moses, not to kill. So stop it already! You can't murder your way into heaven.
And you Jews, the Palestinians deserve a homeland, too, and when you shell a UN school that the UN has marked as a civilian Sanctuary, that really REALLY pisses off Jaweh. There were children there. You denounce Arabs for terrorism, yet you are just as evil as they are.
Why do you fire on a UN truck bringing aid to Gaza? The man you murdered in this attack wasn't an Arab!
U.N. spokesman Adnan Abu Hasna says the incident took place during a lull declared by Israel to allow humanitarian aid to enter the territory.
He says the U.N. coordinated the delivery with Israel, and the vehicle and was marked with a U.N. flag and insignia when it was shot in northern Gaza.
Earlier this week, an Israeli attack near a U.N. school killed more than 30 people. At the time, Israel said it opened fire after militants hiding in the crowd shot mortar shells at Israeli troops.
They showed no evidence or proof that there was in fact any mortar fired. No proof that the Israeli statement was in fact not a God damned lie.
I can guess why they shot the UN worker -- to stop aid to Gaza.
Monsters.
Not only are your actions evil, they're stupid as well. From the above linked story:
Lebanese militants fired at least three rockets into Israel early Thursday, threatening to open a new front for the Jewish state as it pushed forward with a bloody offensive in the Gaza Strip that has killed nearly 700 people.
What brought on my rant? Well, I was watching the History Channel last night, and I didn't see the whole show as I'd been watching a Star Trek episode that featured Tasha Yar's sister, and the episode reminded me of the middle east. But history (or at least its TV channel) has the ancient Mayans, Nostradomas, Merlin, a modern web bot that predicted 9-11, a Native American in the 1890s, all predicting doom and destruction in the year 2012.
The history Channel mentioned this prophesysing computer program, but I can find little real information on it in Google. One site I found (with little info, and it's a blog so take it with a grain of salt) says
What is the WebBot ?
A tool used to speedread the internet web in order to find patterns or waves of behaviour. This tool is believed to be able to forecast the future based on the web surfing habits of the information generation. The WebBot conceptualizes a future pattern of behaviour based on the new and recent psychological queries of the masses. This to some might appear to be a type of AI ( artificial intelligence ). How can a computer find reason in patterns. The WebBot has predicted some events with a level of accuracy that warrant serious consideration. The data collected from the WebBot has been used in financial markets where greed and fear of the masses is known to drive price volatility.
One thing that jumps out at this skeptic is the fact that if this tool, originally designed for finance, is predictive, then why did we have an economic meltdown?
The Mayan Calendar that ends in 2012 is easily explained. To the ancient Mayans, there were cycles, like months and years, and 2012 is a rollover.
But we may only have three years left. Damn it, I don't even have grandkids! Would you Arabs, Jews, and Christians PLEASE stop killing each other?
Not quite right (Score:2)
Yet you take it upon yourselves to assault abortion clinic workers, bomb clinics (thank God it's been a while since that happened), when it's none of your or my damned business. I'm sure a blastocyst isn't a child, your opinion may vary but it's just your OPINION.
I am strongly pro-life and am willing to engage in a societal discussion on this. However, it is fallacious to say that nothing should be done, and that it is none of our business. Pro-life advocates contend that an unborn child is human life, due certain protections as a result. The "none of your business" argument is fallacious because it ignores the fact that if you accept that fact, you have a moral obligation to int
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That's your problem right there. Morality is subjective, but you've convinced yourself it's not. Hilarity ensues.
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Which begs the question: Do fetuses have wills? By definition, no.
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Oh, ok then. By that rubric, I have a solemn and serious duty to smack you in the head until you stop believing fairy tales are real, because delusional fuckheads are the source of most misery in the world.
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Way to keep things civil, mate! Glad to know that you're so capable of having a mature discussion.
If you want to stoop to name calling, we're done here.
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*FYI, that's name calling. Thanks for playing.
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Come on, a 10-week fetus is not a person. With no functioning brain. much less anything that approaches the complexity of a mouse, there is NO question of granting any sort of "personhood" to it.
We also don't continue to grant personhood to those whose brains are dead. Nobody home, pull the damn plug, and let everyone else do their grieving and get on with their lives.
One of these days we'll find a cure for religion. Engineer it into a retrovirus, and within months the world will be a much saner. saf
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Come on, a 10-week fetus is not a person.
Says you. That's the entire point of the debate, you can hardly just say "It is so" like it's a fact that is supposed to sway me.
One of these days we'll find a cure for religion.
Except I'm not religious in any way. I am firmly agnostic. Sorry to not live up to the common prejudice, but it isn't like religion has the monopoly on considering human life to be largely inviolate.
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Sorry to disagree about terms, but to an atheist, "firmly agnostic" () means you acknowledge the possibility of god, since you refuse to say that there is no god. That's about the same as "maybe a little bit pregnant."
As for the 10-week-old fetus, the brain structures just aren't there. If an adult were to have the same lack of brain structure, we would say that whatever made them "them" is gone, and all that's left is a shell, a husk.
An arm or a leg is not a human person, and cannot house a person. On
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Sorry to disagree about terms, but to an atheist, "firmly agnostic" () means you acknowledge the possibility of god, since you refuse to say that there is no god. That's about the same as "maybe a little bit pregnant."
Actually, I do acknowledge the possibility of a god. I also acknowledge the possibility of the nonexistence of any god. My stance is simple: I don't know*. I'm content with not knowing, as I don't really care about the answer either.
*More specifically, I have narrowed it down to three possibilities and don't know which is correct: There is no god, there is a god who isn't powerful enough to help us (and in that case, what's the point of worrying?), or there is a god who is able to help but isn't interested
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Your 3 possibilities are a lot more logical than the *true believers* who go on and on about how, if we please god, maybe he'll listen to us, or that we somehow have some sort of obligation to a god (if we were to posit the existence of a god) who either is doing a crappy job of it, or hss ethics and morals on a par with Atilla the Hun and Hitler.
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Some of us have no choice as to whether or not we believe in the existance of God [kuro5hin.org], just as you have no choice as to believe in the existance of dogs, once you've seen one.
Whether or not your computer or self portrait believes in you is immaterial. You don't exist for the program you wrote, the program exists for you, to do your bidding.
You're not supposed to pray for stuff. You are supposed to be the servant, not the other way around. The trouble is, too few "religious" people understand or believe that.
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you can hardly just say "It is so" like it's a fact that is supposed to sway me
But he didn't - he put forth the perfectly rational argument that a ten week old fetus has no brain and has less of the complexity of a mouse, and that we pull the plug on brain dead adults.
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One of these days we'll find a cure for religion
One of these days we'll find a cure for athiesm. I've seen elephants, and even though you have no eyes and therefore don't believe in elephants there's no way you will argue away their existance.
Perhaps some day your blindness will be lifted.
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So shooting Hitler - even when he was in the middle of harming millions of Jews against their will - would have been an immoral act as it would have harmed him against his own will? How about just capturing and restraining him?
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You are well within your rights to speak out, but not to assault, maim, trespass, kill, or otherwise harm. The same would have been said about slavery, and it applies if you are an animal rights activist as well; PETA nuts believe that animals should have the same rights as people.
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Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about birth control, and making it widely available?
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I fully support it, depending on what extent is meant by "widely available". I don't think it's a prudent use of tax dollars to provide it to those who can afford it for themselves just fine, but apart from that, I could get behind such a thing all the way. People aren't going to stop having sex (although it is definitely the only 100% method to avoiding pregnancy, the trade-off is just too large for most), and we should do what we can to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
That said, if someone is stupid and deci
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If the issue was simple, no one would argue about it :-)
It does bug me when people go off about how they want to stop abortions, and yet don't support making birth control available (as that really is the way to decrease the number of abortions. Making it illegal only decreases the number of LEGAL abortions...) I am ok having tax payer money used for making birth control available, since this is an issue that impacts our entire society.
I can understand your feelings about abortion itself; I personally sort
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It may be that you're bugged by it because you don't understand what they mean. Some methods of birth control are no better than abortion (to those who believe that life begins at conception). And one can be for the prevention of something they're against, without having to be for govt.-funded prevention of it.
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Well I actually mean the typical Catholic view (i.e. All Birth Control is Eeeeeeevillllll!) I can understand why some people don't like, say, the morning after pill. But whatsamatter with condoms???? Unless of course "reduce the number of abortions" is not in fact your agenda, certain forms of birth control should be ok, right?
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Ah yes, the ole be fruitful and multiply and fill the world, in perpetuity, even if the world is already over-full. Okay, I didn't know you were thinking specifically the Catholic view.
Don't even get me started on that. :) But, relevant to this, aside from relatively (compared to the other methods) poor success rates in practice (when used alone/not with other method(s)), nothing -- th
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This reminds me, I always wonder; if people have problems with birth control (i.e., spilled seed and all that), technically if you aren't having sex constantly, aren't you causing lots of potential unborn babies to never have a chance to be conceived?
Mind boggle...
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Maybe. Or maybe God just puts the next available soul in the next available conceived body. Someone's always making babies, at any given time.
The "spilled seed" metaphor may have been due to things like higher infant mortality rates then, the need for offspring to work and perpetuate the family's livelihood and name, etc. I.e. "don't waste it, fool!", just like you wouldn't spill a bunch of your crop seeds and diminish the quantity of your wheat harvest or whatever. Prolly exceedingly sage advice then.
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I am strongly pro-life and am willing to engage in a societal discussion on this.
Pro-life advocates contend that an unborn child is human life
I'm pro-choice and I have no problem stipulating that an unborn child is human life. This point seems rather obvious. What the pro-life movement tends to forget is Mom's ability to control her own body. Put another way: If the state can order Mom to carry that baby to term because it's human life can the state also order me to cough up a kidney or some bone marrow to save my neighbors life? My personal view of abortion is that it's pretty repugnant and I would never choose it as a "solution" for an unwa
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What the pro-life movement tends to forget is Mom's ability to control her own body.
Well, "forget" may be a bit too strong of a term. I've never forgotten it and never will. However, if you accept the premise that the child is to be considered human life (which necessarily implies, to me, that killing it would be considered murder), then this falls into the realm of "Your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins": "You can't kill people" trumps "You can control what happens to your body". It's unfortunate, yet necessary. What I rather hope is that one day (if we don't have it alr
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"You can't kill people" trumps "You can control what happens to your body"
*shrug*, I guess I disagree. I would also think that at certain stages of development it probably isn't fair to call it human life -- is a zygote consisting of two or four cells really human life? But then how do you really answer that question? Historically it was at the quickening, although technology has made it a lot more complex than that.
also, there's a large gap to me between "If I act, you die", and "If I refrain from acting, you die", so the two have differing levels of responsibility
So if Mom decides to stop eating until her body naturally aborts the fetus because of malnutrition you'd be ok with that? That sounds a bit extreme but desperate
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Modern Marvels is a very good show. The show after the one I mentioned was excellent as well; it was about the various hypotheses of why the dinasaurs became extinct, featuring working paleontologists, each of whom pointed out reasons why the opposing views were impossible (the prevaling view today is the asteroid strike).
If it was simply the WW2 channel I'd get bored quickly.
It's part of by basic cable here, I don't subscribe to any extras. I wish they had ala carte, what you say about HC is how I feel abo
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No, my problem with HC is all the filler. Mostly religious/Nostradamus-like fluff which has no new information, just recycling the same old shit. Whoo! Noah's Ark maybe coulda sorta woulda happened if all these other things are true! After hours of Pseudo-mystical boredom, you just want to slit your wrists. It's no
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History Channel has conceded the WW2 market to Discovery Communication's Military Channel. Check local listings, etc. (Although they do sometimes have shows about the other wars on the Military Channel.)
In some ways, I'm glad that History has gotten away from "all war all the time!" as there are lots of other things that happened in history could be interesting to know about. But I'm also pissed off that so much time on mysticism and baseless conjecture instead of actually presenting historical facts and
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Surely you didn't mean to omit John Titor from your end of the world warnings?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor [wikipedia.org]
He made claims that we would be fighting WW3 at that time too...
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Where's my tinfoil hat...
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Like I said, I didn't see the whole show and aren't a big prophesy believer. The article you linked is loading in another tab now.
However, there was one prophesy that still haunts me, and I have no rational explanation for it. One night when I was still married, about a year or so after we moved into the big house on 7th street, we were watching a movie and my youngest teenager came downstairs from her bedroom, white as a sheet and crying.
She said that she had a terrible dream, that it was going to come tru
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No BS, I had a similar dream sometime in July of that year, dreamt I was with someone from my company who worked 1200 miles away, watching the thing replay over and over on the television, concerned about the well-being of someone (I don't know anyone who worked in the building). Very detailed, but none of it made any sense to me at the time. It was odd enough to me that I mentioned it to my girlfriend when I woke up. Sure as shit, the fellow flew into my town on the 10th, and his aunt worked on one of t
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Wow, very intriguing...
I was in school at the time working on my AAS, and living with my folks. I normally slept in, but that morning just happened to wake up and wouldn't go back to sleep. So I got up and meandered into the kitchen, and they were both sitting on the couch holding their coffee and not moving, zombied at the TV. The first plane had just hit and it was starting to make national news. As I stood there watching the telly and rubbing my face, I watched the replay over and over.
Knowing that I
Jesus Was A Zombie (Score:1)
With a good PR team
It doesn't say that. (Score:1)
Thou shalt not kill
It says Thou shalt not Murder. Almost every accurate interpretation [the-ten-commandments.org] says so. Except for Paul, who was trying to say all kinds of crazy shit.
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Who is determining accuracy? Since I don't speak Latin, Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic, I use the oldest English language translation in the world, King James. It has been in print over a thusand years, and newer "translations" are in fact inaccurate. I have one bible that says "do nat lie" when in fact King James says "do not slander" ("thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor").
Exodus 20:13: Thou shalt not kill [sacred-texts.com].
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The KJB has lasted over 1000 years. For it to have lasted that lone, God must have wanted it to.
Also, I can't have faith in a Bible that a man holds copyright to. Nobody should own the text of the Bible, it should be free and open for everyone. I cannot trust the words of men, particularly when they claim to own those words.
Whether it says "kill" or "murder" is not a very big deal anyway. If you willfully kill you've murdered, and as Christ said, if you strike a man in anger you have committed murder in you