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This just in, Bush meets with Cindy Sheehan.

Comments from Sheehan:

""I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.

Oh, I'm sorry, that was from the PREVIOUS meeting.

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  • That events and information released since April have clearly put the Bush Administration in a bad light at best on the subject of the Iraq war- and cast serious doubt among serious thinkers about the honesty of the administration on the war and the President himself on the honesty of his faith.

    I'm not saying that he isn't a man of faith- but I am saying he's a man of faith who has a really bad history of putting his faith in the wrong place when it comes to alcohol, Iraq, the war on terror in general, eco
    • What events and information are you talking about? Do be specific, we like specifics.

      Other than that you've merely descended into ad hominem attack.

      • The linking of Karl Rove to the Valerie Plame leak, regardless of whether it is legal or not, shows that the administration KNEW that the intelligence was false, and took actions to hide that fact.

        The inability to break down a thousand years of tribal hatred to build an Iraqi Constitution by the deadline shows that the administration knew nothing about the cultural and political realities inside of Iraq- and still doesn't.

        The repeated assertions by our vice-cyborg-in-charge-of-making-himeself-rich that th

        • The linking of Karl Rove to the Valerie Plame leak, regardless of whether it is legal or not, shows that the administration KNEW that the intelligence was false, and took actions to hide that fact.

          Demonstrably false. Read the paraphrase of Rove's conversation with Matt Cooper. Rove was stating, factually, that Wilson wasn't a reliable source. Wilson lied about the provisioning and the results of his trip. If you don't believe me then go read Time and the SSCI report.

          The inability to break down a thousan
          • Demonstrably false. Read the paraphrase of Rove's conversation with Matt Cooper. Rove was stating, factually, that Wilson wasn't a reliable source. Wilson lied about the provisioning and the results of his trip. If you don't believe me then go read Time and the SSCI report.

            I've read it- and the fact that Karl Rove decided to try to point it out means that the administration had something they were trying to cover up. He wouldn't have bothered otherwise- not a profitable use of his time.

            I suppose the mu
        • It was her SON'S sacrifice.

          Not hers. He joined volutarily. He reupped. He even volunteered for the mission that he was killed on even though he wasn't a combat trooper and not ordered to go.

          She's jumping up and down and spitting on his memory right now.
          • It was her SON'S sacrifice.

            You think the sacrifice of the son doesn't affect the mother?

            Not hers. He joined volutarily. He reupped. He even volunteered for the mission that he was killed on even though he wasn't a combat trooper and not ordered to go.

            And that helps the fact that we've lost any chance of providing democracy in Iraq how?

            She's jumping up and down and spitting on his memory right now.

            By holding an incompetant commander to justice? How do you see that? Or do you imagine that our troo
            • The troops that are actually over there doing the fighting support Bush overwhelming. Reenlistment rates are at record levels.

              Do you suppose that the people who are actually over there risking life and limb might know a bit more about what they're fighting for than us armchair quarterbacks?
              • The troops that are actually over there doing the fighting support Bush overwhelming. Reenlistment rates are at record levels.

                And yet the ones who come back injured are telling an entirely different story. My guess? The ones who are Reenlisting are serving in areas where there is no fighting, and they're NOT risking life and limb.

                Do you suppose that the people who are actually over there risking life and limb might know a bit more about what they're fighting for than us armchair quarterbacks?

                I think
                • Your whole sad set of suppositions falls flat on its fact however when it's easily pointed out that the support was in the 70%+ level and it would be very hard to spin any scenario where 70% of the people in Iraq are in some non-combat area.

                  As far as Dick Cheney's claims go I believe that the war is being prosecuted in a strong and well thought out manner. I also am not silly enough to think that the actual operational decisions are being made by either Cheney or Bush.

                  You continue to accuse Bush and Cheney
                  • Your whole sad set of suppositions falls flat on its fact however when it's easily pointed out that the support was in the 70%+ level and it would be very hard to spin any scenario where 70% of the people in Iraq are in some non-combat area.

                    No, actually, that fits- take a look at a map sometime. There's a REASON why the Sunnis are still fighting- they're very much a minority in the country, both in land controlled and population. GREAT big swaths of the country- the whole northern 40% and at least 35% o

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