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Google Launches Website Optimizer

Posted by CowboyNeal on Fri Oct 20, 2006 06:26 AM
from the yet-another-fine-google-service dept.
Rockgod writes "Google Analytics Senior Manager Brett Crosby unveiled the tool, called Google Website Optimizer, this morning at the eMetrics summit in Washington D.C. If you find web site traffic heat maps like CrazyEgg, ClickDensity or Google Analytics' own heat map interesting, this looks like the next generation of that kind of tool. If Google's Website Optimizer can score high on usability, I expect it to be a big hit with small and medium size website publishers."
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  • That's great and all... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2006, @06:29AM (#16514495)
    ... but what is it?
    • Re:That's great and all... (Score:5, Informative)

      by setirw (854029) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:35AM (#16514523)
      (http://www.badgerville.org/)
      It supposedly can determine which home pages make the greatest impression on users. I agree with you, though, that this should have been included in the summary, which is meaningless.
      [ Parent ]
      • "algorithm" ..or google users? (Score:5, Interesting)

        by adam (1231) * on Friday October 20 2006, @07:13AM (#16514717)
        I'm somewhat unclear on this, and I watched 80% of the flash demo linked above before getting insanely bored (mostly due to the pace) and letting my ADHD take over. From what I can tell, they are implying that this is not an algorithm doing the "checking" of your web site, but rather human editors/users. The flash demo mentions testing optimization of images as well, which I believe wouldn't be something easily automated through an algorithm (at least not easily automated to derive USEFUL results). However, i'm a bit confused because they aren't very specific as to who or what will be testing your site for clickthru/etc. At some point I started to think "oh, okay, google editors/volunteers will be testing it" (much like the google image labeler [google.com] beta linked from /. a few weeks ago).. and then i started to suspect they are actually just using the code to run multiple "live" versions of your site and let NORMAL google users view them in a random distribution and then see which ones stay (and buy) and for how long etc. But maybe I just misunderstood and got distracted 5 seconds before they explained this haha. Anyone with the answer?

        If it really is the latter method, I am sure it would work for some web sites, but I know for our company's site, we can only ever display one version of our content, as any minor changes at all tend to draw a lot of industry attention (i.e. "hey what are these guys up to.. their site updated.. OMG is the next big product about to drop, blah blah").. so I hope that out of the three methods, it's either an algorithm, or a small subset of google trustees/volunteers. But then again, our industry (digital cinema) is a typical and I'm sure no matter which method, this will work great for mom & pop selling Pokemon trading cards or whatever.
        [ Parent ]
        • Re:"algorithm" ..or google users? by tomhudson (Score:3) Friday October 20 2006, @07:34AM
        • Re:"algorithm" ..or google users? (Score:5, Informative)

          by tolan-b (230077) on Friday October 20 2006, @08:26AM (#16515243)
          No the way it works is that you identify parts of a page that you want to experiment with with tags, include a javascript library on it and a conversion page, and then tell google what variations on the tagged item (alternate headlines for example) you want to test.

          When someone goes to that page, google will randomly select one of your alternate headlines and replace the original one with it. It'll then check if that person buys something (or subscribes or whatever).

          It then gives you a report of which variations lead to the most conversions.
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    • Re:That's great and all... (Score:5, Informative)

      by Jellybob (597204) on Friday October 20 2006, @09:03AM (#16515619)
      (Last Journal: Thursday January 29 2004, @08:43AM)
      It's a tool for Adwords optimization - you give the application some blocks of your page, and several variations of the content for them, and then a percentage of your visitors get each version.

      This allows you to try out different sets of content, and see which one leads to the most conversions (software downloads, sales, enquiries etc.), and hopefully save some money at the same time. We have several clients you are spending over £1000/month on Adwords, and it really pays to be able to see what works.
      [ Parent ]
    • limited beta test = launch? by mv_dude (Score:1) Friday October 20 2006, @09:37AM
    • Re:That's great and all... by simontek2 (Score:1) Friday October 20 2006, @09:41AM
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  • Enhancing your ability to get ads (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BadAnalogyGuy (945258) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Friday October 20 2006, @06:32AM (#16514511)
    Or enhancing advertisers' ability to get your eyeballs.

    Either way, it's not for us.
  • Optimising Slashdot (Score:3, Funny)

    by Rik Sweeney (471717) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:33AM (#16514519)
    (http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/)
    This'll be great, I can analyse Slashdot and post the results in the comments section along with some helpful suggestions, +5 Funny here I come!

    *Clicks link*

    *Clicks Sign up*

    *Starts filling in form*

    *Notices that signing up to Ad Words is required*

    *Notices that adding a phone number is required*

    *Gives up and decides to just post the results of W3C's HTML Validation Service instead*
    • Re:Optimising Slashdot (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2006, @06:44AM (#16514561)
      Hilarious!

      Now... did you actually look at the site? It's nothing to do with HTML validation, and therefore has nothing whatsoever to do with the W3C's HTML Validation Service. :-P
      [ Parent ]
    • Re:Optimising Slashdot (Score:5, Interesting)

      by tuomasr (721846) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:51AM (#16514591)
      (http://tuomas.substanssi.net/)

      Well, it seems that this is a tool for AdWords users. The demo says "Google AdWords Website Optimization" and the sign-up thing reads:

      We're currently accepting sign-ups from AdWords Advertisers who are interested in participating in this beta test. We may not be able to guarantee invitations to everyone, but will be working hard to make this tool generally available to all AdWords customers in the near future.

      The front-page is misleading though, as it doesn't state anything about AdWords.

      [ Parent ]
  • Yes.. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2006, @06:43AM (#16514551)
    ..but is it beta?
    • Re:Yes.. by b4lr0g (Score:1) Friday October 20 2006, @08:35AM
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  • This may be useful (Score:5, Insightful)

    by x-vere (956928) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:49AM (#16514585)
    (http://www.joelpadot.com/)
    I think this is cool. Google Adwords is somewhat of a statistical pain in the butt. I've spent hours upon hours of my life analyzing keywords, click rates, etc. for pushing more traffic to various sites on the web. If this tool eases that pain, even just a little, I say it is a good thing. Google needs us to succeed with AdWords as much as we want to succeed.
  • Mixed Feelings (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Sv-Manowar (772313) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:52AM (#16514599)
    (http://www.frogsporn.com/ | Last Journal: Wednesday July 26 2006, @05:30PM)
    Google giving advice is always going to help two sets of people - those who already have websites and want to optimise them, and those who are attempting to create websites to rank highly. If we look at why people creating websites usually want to get them to rank highly google the reasons are primarily monetary, which means that this tool is mainly giving advice to those who are trying to displace older (and possibly better sites). Say I have site A. which is dedicated to mountain biking news and has been running since 1997 with messageboards, news etc and hasn't been optimised for the best google rankings and we have Site B. which was created 3 months ago and uses RSS syndication to just serve up content from other sites and monetising it with something like adsense is the main point, then which should really rank higher in Google? I'm thinking A because it is more of a legitimate site.

    I think there is a point where trying to rank highly in Google is OK for wanting to growth in your site, but if Google continue to give out such tools then surely people will start producing sites that match exactly what it wants to see in order to get traffic. I'm starting to think that it shouldn't be sites that have to be optimised for Google to rank them highly, but Google to be optimised to pick up the best sites for each search term instead of landing pages or shells that are just there for advertising revenue.
  • In other news... (Score:5, Funny)

    by noname4444 (972861) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:54AM (#16514609)
    Google's new website optimizer suddenly quits after being run against MySpace [myspace.com]. It's been reported the optimizer was later heard weeping, as well as muttering "the horror."
  • by Channard (693317) on Friday October 20 2006, @06:57AM (#16514627)
    .. how about they send some kind of robot around their search listings, to delist any page that is little more links to another page. I've been looking for something and found links to a site that's basically links, which links to another site made up of links etc..
  • GA heat maps? (Score:2)

    by gilgongo (57446) on Friday October 20 2006, @07:05AM (#16514667)
    (http://www.hatters.org.uk/ | Last Journal: Tuesday July 29 2003, @03:19PM)
    Since when did Google Analytics have heat maps?
  • I got a bogus AdWords account, just never added billing info. I have considered trying AdWords and paying for it with my AdSense money, they should have that as a payment option, to just take it from AdSense... For web site analysis I use WebCEO anyway, but I can't help but want to check out a new tool, overall, I love the direction Google is going, I use Google Office, just used their photo album thing to show friends vacation pics, use analytics for traffic analysis...it's cool stuff.
  • by dk90406 (797452) on Friday October 20 2006, @08:30AM (#16515287)
    From my firefox browser, after clicking on the demo, I was unable to open the "Sample reports" and "Documentation" links.
    Closing the "demo" tab allowed one of the other links to be opened.
    Is this optimal design?
  • ... but what is it (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2006, @09:12AM (#16515725)
    > ..but what is it?

    Classic "look at the monkey tactics" making you believe you get your money's worth from Adwords - very rarely true in my experience. What they really need is a means of stopping fraudulent clicks by 'Google Network' advertisers.
  • It's for marketer's landing pages (Score:3, Informative)

    by 1sockchuck (826398) on Friday October 20 2006, @09:17AM (#16515785)
    (http://www.gamehostingguide.com/)
    This tool is most helpful for companies who buy a lot of AdWords and route the the clicks to optimized "landing pages" that present a focused marketing pitch. From what I've seen, the Optimizer's real value is to help these AdWords buyers figure out which of their landing pages is producing the best performance in routing readers to their product pages. Getting that kind of data in a quick, user-friendly fashion will have value to these folks.
  • the Real website optimizer (Score:3, Insightful)

    by a.d.trick (894813) on Friday October 20 2006, @09:27AM (#16515911)
    (http://terminate.sourceforge.net/)

    And the winner is: w3.org [w3.org]. The CSS section [w3.org] is probably the most useful part of it, but the whole thing is heartily recommended. To test you level of optimization there is an automated tool for HTML markup [w3.org] as well as one for CSS [w3.org].

  • But I spat out my coffee when it said "Make this bike yours" with a picture of a woman...
  • Google Launches Website Optimizer (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 20 2006, @10:05PM (#16525207)
    Google will soon be more of a problem to web users than help. Here is how my bitter taste with Google became sour. We share a computer at home and my sister and parents do not change the settings (on shared PC) much. While I enabled Javascript the other day, she had to call me on cellphone at work since no web pages were loading (mozilla). I drove back and did a check. Something to do with google syndication or analytics. This machine is clean of spyware. So I reset the browser and all was okay again. The Telcos were right. AT&T was right demanding that Google pay for bandwidth. I thought AT&T was playing politics demanding fees from google. I have since changed my opinion. Google will make the net crawl.
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