You mean the types of geeks that dispute Gnome vs KDE vs XFCE vs any other number of configurable GUI interfaces for Linux throwing a fit about having the option to change a menu button on a Windows system via a 3rd party customizable interface to give a user options as to what they want?

If you're not already familiar with it, I highly recommend "Classic Shell". http://www.classicshell.net/

That will let you choose a few different traditional start menu types, allow Win7 style searching from the menu, add some features into the Windows Explorer, and disable the active corners and metro screen.

Once that's done, I personally like the OS as much or better than Win7.

Disclaimer:

My win7 box is a company laptop with 8gig ram, an 2.4ghz I5 processor, Dell something or other but stuck with MS Office, McAffee and some other crap I can't uninstall per company policy.

My Win8 laptop has 4gig ram, 2.5ghz, i3 processor Toshiba Satellite and configured the way *I* want it.

So, in my situation, working off two different machines, different software, different settings: Win8 seems faster and more responsive "to me". I'm sure some of this is a function of background tasks, etc, YMMV.

No mod points here, so the best I can give is an "Amen!"

Personally, I was the youngest kid in the class. Kinda short, kinda fat, a kinda a dork. I was a prime target. Nothing like watching the gym teacher laugh as you get a hockey stick under your rips lifting you up off the ground (think bear hug from behind -- kinda creepy in retrospect). The senior(s) and teachers didn't laugh as hard once I whacked one upside the head. Not too hard, but enough to get his attention.

Thankfully, a couple years later I met some like-minded folks. Combine the goth kids, the metal heads, the geeks, and the 'thankfully this was before columbine' kids in trench coats and combat boots who just didn't really give a fuck. Which amounted to about, oh...8 close people and a network of associated outcasts.

Not a lot, but when there's only a couple lone bullies, 8 people standing together is enough.

Play it as it lays! Water Trap, Sand Trap, Raging Inferno Trap. If you can reach it, play it!

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/...

Sonny Corleone Make Over courtesy of ED-209

My last company was exactly that. "Salary Minus". I forget the exact pay rate, but lets say it broke down to $1/hr. So I'd make $40 per week based on a 40hr work week. 60hrs that week meant I still got $40. 30hrs for the week meant I got $30. These hours were against actual projects/new work.

Additionally, I was on call 24/7. Every goddamn week. A service call during the day cut into my time on new work, so I had to "Work Harder" to make up the time I lost on the new job to offset the time spent on emergency maint.

On the upside, I did get paid a fixed $50 per service call for after hours maintenance (before taxes). $50 per call no matter how long it took. 15min fix? $50. 12hr fix? $50.

This was from 2004-2006. I started at $37,500/yr and I think when I left I was up to a whopping $39k or so.

Maybe I'm a masochist, as I switched companies and kept doing the same damn thing. The customers I had switched their contracts to my new company less than 6 months after I left the old.

Still salary, still the same on-call schedule, and I lost the after hours compensation I used to have.

But now I kinda work my own schedule, act as my own supervisor, manage my own projects, work less hours and make more money.

I'll get the torches!

Of course there's meters outside the borders, that's how we charge Canada and Mexico. I'd venture to say there's maybe even a thousand of them to cover both borders

I hadn't thought of it that way....how quick can we plot its impact and organize a get together for our In-Laws?

Revlolting Cocks are God!

But wouldn't know what to do with it afterwords....

Brilliant! Now to update my Win8 box.

Meanwhile, to avoid further nerd-rage, I'm also switching this laptop over from Ubuntu to Mint...so yeah...doin' *nix stuff! (Though I never really got the hang of BSD, but last I tried that was several years ago)

Why? Android MIUI vs HTC Sense vs Others; XFCE vs KDE vs Gnome, etc.

The default UI for Win8 basically sucks, but some tweaks make it a functional system again

Cuz man...the Cloud....ain't ya heard! That's where all the important files are going.

*blech*