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Comment Re:Cui Bono? (Score 1) 159

You can't just assume it was the Russian government, as the evidence doesn't back that up. It could have been anyone from a Russian proxy, or the phishing attacks could be unrelated to the leaked email. i.e., they could have both stupid users who fall for phishing attacks, and disgruntled employees leaking their shit.

Comment Re:How is this news? (Score 1) 129

I think the universal thing that we can all agree on is that cooperation is better than division. We should all be able to agree that there is a universal basis for morality that has nothing to do with religion or parenting and it is largely based on cooperation for the benefit of everyone and the reduction of human suffering.

I disagree with this because you're essentially discussing a collective morality. This leaves room for individual bad action, if it doesn't harm the collective or even helps the collective. Tell a little lie here and there to, in your opinion, "benefit everyone." But how do you know it benefits everyone? Also the capacity for human self-deception is limitless. It's not hard to talk yourself into doing really awful shit "for that greater good" that is really just better for yourself. We have proverbs to warn us against this kind of thought, like "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

The hurdles in front of that evolving are people that are tightly held onto what I would refer to as out-dated systems. They served a important purpose in the evolution of human systems and cultures, but they are obsolete.

This is a very arrogant viewpoint and quite dangerous. You may not like traditional religious cultural values because they restrict your behavior, but they worked. They got us here. If you're going to start chucking those values overboard now you better be damn sure the unintended consequences are not catastrophic.

In some ways we're already seeing the crumbling of our civilization because of an abandonment of traditional values. For example, the sexual revolution and "gender equality." So starting about 50 years ago feminists, with the support of the big businesses that run major media started propagandizing for women to go into the workforce. That's great for cheap labor, and sure, some women get to feel more "fulfilled" as doctors or whatever, but most women aren't doctors. They went from being chained to the oven to chained to the desk at the call center. Overall women report lower levels of happiness today than in the 50s. They're having children later, or not having children at all. Birthrates are way down and we're having to import mexicans in the US and mulsims in Europe to replace the aging population. So, great, we abandoned the effective, traditional gender roles and replaced them with something that's today called "moral," but leads to less-happy overall populace and demographic collapse and eventual replacement by civilizations that do not, at all, share this non-productive morality. What good is a morality that doesn't work and can't propagate itself into the future?

Comment Re:Just like China (Score 1) 159

Governmental power will always be abused, and the only way to limit that abuse is to limit how much power you give government.

We used to have this document that listed the limited powers of the federal government and strictly forbade it from doing most everything else but nobody pays attention to that thing anymore.

Comment Re:Cui Bono? (Score 1) 159

I agree with that. I would think an RNC leak would actually help Trump. It would show all the RNC executives shitting on Trump and conspiring against him like the DNC did Bernie, except Trump had a strategy for beating them. It would corroborate Trump's narrative that the system, including the primaries, is rigged.

Comment Re:Just like China (Score 1) 159

The BBC definitely has their own biases, as well.

I prefer adversarial media. With both Breitbart and Mother Jones I know exactly where they stand. Neither is pretending to be unbiased. You can see what issues matter to different people of different ideologies, and then do your own fact-checking. But then you get CNN blatantly editing shit to fit their narrative while pretending to be unbiased "news." No, it's propaganda. I don't think it's possible to be unbiased. Humans can't be. Anyone claiming to be unbiased is lying.

Comment Re:How is this news? (Score 1) 129

That's a good chunk of the human condition. Good luck solving that.

That's one of the purposes of systems of morality and religion, and parenting.

My family took a vacation with my wife's best friend's family. Their five (six?) year old was a real piece of work. Constantly disobeying and causing trouble, and his mom was frustrated with him and mentioned his behavioral problems at school, too. She didn't ask me for advice, so I didn't give it, but watching them for that week it was pretty obvious what the issue was: she never punished the kid for lying. Only for things that involved physical violence, that someone would notice. So if he just snatched one of the other kids' candy bars and the victim cried, he'd get yelled at. "NO! That's wrong!" But if instead he conned him, "Do you want your candy bar right now?" "No." Snatch. Then it was okay.

He'd lie straight to their faces and they treated it like a joke. "Mom can I have a candy bar?" "Did you already have one?" "(Obvious lie) Noooooo..." "(smirk) Hmmm...yes you did! Go eat a banana if you're hungry." "Awwww..." They treated it like a game. There's no penalty for lying, and no penalty for trying to break the rules (thieving candy bars) so all that teaches him is "get better at lying."

They even helped him with lies. At the end of the vacation we had all our kids' toys packed up by the door to leave. Out of the corner of my eye I see the kid taking my son's transformers and sneaking them upstairs to put with his stuff so later he can say "Oh, hey must have left his toys here..." So I tell the parents, and they tell him to bring the toys back. Pissed at being caught, he throws my son's transformer toy down the stairs. Instead of punishing him for first trying to steal the toy, and second trying to break the toy once he was caught, they ask "Did you do that on purpose...or was it an accident?" "(Obvious lie) Accident." "Okay be more careful." Fuck you people! It was clearly on purpose. You're feeding him lies to escape punishment for his shit behavior and you wonder why he has behavioral problems.

I just see that a lot, both in person and on TV. Kids lie to their parents and their parents smirk and say "uh uh, I don't believe you!" like it's a game. I can't stand that shit.

Comment Re:So says every SJW attacking Peter Thiel (Score 1) 159

"Thiel gave $1.25M to a candidate who'd just had it revealed he has serious problems with women (to put a politically correct spin on it),"

Sure sounds like Hillary/Bill to me.

" who is/was telling people he wouldn't accept the results of the election if he loses,"

Maybe you have a point there. After all, it sounds like Trump is agreeing with Al Gore and that's not a good look.

" and who previously has supported violence against his opponents,"

Yeah, Hillary supports violence right now and violated campaign finance laws to coordinate the violence. Ever seen Project Veritas?

" who is threatening legal sanctions against his opponents and the press,"

Sounds like Clinton to me too.

" and who has engaged in racial scapegoating and in dehumanizing minorities."

Basket of Deplorables. Not to mention the racist lynch mob waiting for any "minority" who gets uppity and doesn't lick Massa Hilary's boots like a good little house slave.

Comment Re:Cui Bono? (Score 1) 159

You realize WikiLeaks doesn't obtain the files themselves, right? They publish what they're given. If they were given Republican/Trump docs and then they sneakily held on to them to protect them, the leaker would just hand the docs over to CNN. Either the Republicans run a tighter ship with better security, or there's nothing incriminating/shady to leak.

Comment Re:Just like China (Score 1, Interesting) 159

We don't have a state-run media, we have a media-run state. The massive corporations have similar interests (mass immigration for cheap labor, free trade, etc), they own the politicians and the media, the corps make the policy decisions, their politicians enact them and the media propagandizes to the people why things that are clearly not in their best interests like flooding the country with semi-retarded 3rd worlders are the good, moral things to do, citizen, and anyone who disagrees is an evil Nazi. This is how you conquer a nation, with very special episodes of Blossom.

Comment Re:Yes, selecting the US president isn't "gossip" (Score 1) 350

Yeah I felt bad for my treatment of Bernie supporters after seeing that video. I'm a right-winger but believed in the general validity of Bernie's "revolution" before the Chicago riot. That Bernie was pretty much honest and his supporters saw the same problems I did but just had wrong, misguided solutions. And after the riots I said "fuck these people." Hillary's deception absolutely worked on me. I blamed Bernie's people for the riots she paid for.

Comment Re:Anti-Secrecy Organization?! (Score 1) 314

Hillary got full questions from CNN and topics from Fox. When one side gets questions ahead of time and the other does not, that's rigged. Even if all candidates got the questions ahead of time, if the audience was not informed of that, they were deceived.

I know having chatted with you for weeks about this stuff, it won't matter. You have made up your mind that "dems are good" and that's it. I don't think there's anything you won't deny or handwave away. We could have Hillary on tape looking directly into the camera and saying "I'm selling the nuclear launch codes to Iran for $5, so that I may profit that $5, and I don't care if they then nuke everyone, and you all die in nuclear fire" and David Thornley would be right there to say "well that doesn't mean the Iranians will nuke us, and Trump said mean things about women."

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