Re:No and No. I fought it earlier today. (Score 1)

This basically sums up where I'm at. I have Fiesty on a partition on my Tecra which I primarily use XP on. I don't boot into my Kubuntu partition because for the life of me I can't get wireless working on it. Wired works just fine, but I don't like to work wired. I've tried all combinations of settings in the UI, edited config files, run all sorts of networking shell commands recommended on howtoforge and other places, but it just doesn't want to work. I've talked to many others who just say "well wifi works just fine for me so it must be you". Well, maybe it is, I don't know, nor care. Wireless (and other things the parent posted) are little things that should come STOCK these days and people should not have to fiddle with. I don't care that my manufacturer isn't opening up the driver source, I really don't give a crap if I'm running proprietary drivers, I just want it to work. I never opened up my windows drivers' .c files and make sure they're written well and work up to somebody else's standards, but even still they work just fine out of the box. That's the 'easy' that Ubuntu needs to be at. They can have dozens of game clones and paint programs and whatnot, but until they get the basics ironed out (the "what my mom calls basic", not "what my kids with lots of free time and ambition call basic"), the base of users who go about installing the OS themselves is going to stay geeky and in a niche. "Simple, human" to users has gone past not having to compile kernels and install device drivers. The masses demand much more than that work out of the box now.