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This is how you "negotiate" with liars, cheats, and thieves! More

This is how you "negotiate" with liars, cheats, and thieves!

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  • Was that a situation you were involved with? You don't really have to tell me, but it's a great story.

    • Its one of many.

      Upcoming success stories (mine and others)

      1. mine: after more than 50 of us were arrested by the riot squad, everyone else used a lawyer ... and were all convicted. I didn't ... and wasn't. Gee, do you think they should have taken my advice ?
      2. mine: after reporting a woman for child abuse, she filed false charges of uttering death threats, etc., My lawyer advised me to take the deal they offered - I told him to take a hike. Not only did I completely disprove all the allegations, but I also p
      • Regardless of the jurisdiction you surrender to (which is what you do when you go into court to "plead" your case) you automatically become a "ward of the court" whenever a BAR attorney is appointed or selected by or for you? I.E. you have the same rights as a minor, even if not informed of this. Either you represent yourself, or you let the "officer of the court" (which is what a lawyer/attorney is) represent you.

        Another question to ponder, as an officer of any "authority" to whom would you owe your alle

        • "Regardless of the jurisdiction you surrender to (which is what you do when you go into court to "plead" your case) you automatically become a "ward of the court" whenever a BAR attorney is appointed or selected by or for you? I.E. you have the same rights as a minor, even if not informed of this. Either you represent yourself, or you let the "officer of the court" (which is what a lawyer/attorney is) represent you."

          I never looked at it that way, but you have a point. You can't speak until spoken to, etc

          • Heheh, I like it, keep the good stuff printing man.

            Another thing you might enjoy. Look up a piece of software called "Business Lawyer Pro", probably version 5 or 6 by now. One CD or two by now, FULL of business case law. Its a big enclosed research encyclopedia. Costs about 40 bucks USD (or did, probably 60 now)... very useful for anyone with a set of stones and the willpower to win rather than pay a lawyer to lose on their behalf.
          • Heh - reminds me of that old joke that goes something like: Not all lawyers are bad, it's the other 99% that give the rest a bad name.
  • Now that seemed to work because you knew the other side well enough to predict the sort of crazy that would result, but overall I gotta say, that was an insanely risky ploy. Someone a little more sensible on the other side but equally predisposed to lie would simply have claimed you showed up at her place with a gun and threatened her life. I think proving to the cops that it wasn't actually a firearm wouldn't exactly smooth things over, you know? As you say, Canadian gun laws, after all. Wouldn't be too ha

    • "Now that seemed to work because you knew the other side well enough to predict the sort of crazy that would result"

      That's one of the reasons that, in many cases, people are better to argue their own cases in court than a lawyer would. They *KNOW* the other side, and can "think on their feet". If a line of questioning opens up, you can pursue it, whereas if you didn't anticipate it before hand and discuss it with your lawyer, the opportunity is lost, probably forever.

      She was as predictable as the sun r

  • I'm shocked that it worked.

    • I'm not. This ... "person" ... has made it a career to make a lot of people's lives miserable, which is why 2 out of 3 of her children won't talk to her, and one is testifying against her in April.

      You don't get that unpopular by accident - you have to really, really work at it, and you have to e able to ignore all the warning signs, eject all the offers of help and intervention, and make it clear that the three things you care about most are money, money, and money.

      Its sad, but "Time wounds all heels."

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