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In 460 comments, I was physically threatened twice (perhaps CyranoVR was right about needing to get a gun to protect oneself from these people, hmm?). Only 2 or 3 people actually attempted to respond to the entry in any meaningful way.

This is modern conservative thinking? You've got to be kidding me... I may be nasty and abusive, but I'm pretty sure I've never threatened to commit a hate crime against anybody. I'm also pretty certain that when I responded, no matter whether I was being reasonably calm or enraged and spitting venom, I at least made a point and didn't just spend the entire post making a series of personal attacks against people (not to say I don't mingle attacks and points, of course).

Ah, well, I guess this just goes to show what it means to be a modern conservative. To that end, perhaps I should be proud to be a liberal elitist. I'm not entirely certain why so many stupid people migrated to the right and why they went so far, but bear this in mind: these people are clearly dangerous individuals. They talk about genocide like it were a day in the park. They apparently prefer to threaten harm against anyone they disagree with rather than trying to argue the point (they apparently don't have).

In the event there is a civil war, I have no doubt that it will be these freaks who start it. LGF embodies everything that is wrong with the new conservative base, and I can definitely see them going into open, violent revolt if they don't get their way....

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LGF: This is Conservative Values!?

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  • ...they found out the average IQ for supporters of the major political parties, and supporters of the Christian People's Party and the Progress Party (ultra-conservative, populistic, racist, extremist) scored lowest. Not that it's a big surprise or anything.

    I just thought you'd like to know that ;-)

  • Well, you know where I stand politically... *ducks*

    That said, what I read on LGF isn't pleasant, no matter what side of the fence you're on. What it shows, more than anything else, is that contrary to Ann Coulter's claim that it's a leftist "thing" to call names and make no sense, both sides do it in equally nasty a fashion. If anyone accuses you of being a leftist for calling someone "stupid" you can send them to LGF and shoot a hole in their argument.

    As an aside, I wonder what they were smoking when t

    • Oh, I know where you stand, and I'd say you don't stand anywhere near these loons. I picture you in the REAL conservative base, not the neocon lunatic base that these goons are so clearly a part of.

    • by ces ( 119879 )
      As an aside, I wonder what they were smoking when they decided to name their site "Little Green Footballs"...

      I like the nickname they've picked up on the progressive/liberal blogs: Little Green Snotballs.

      That about sums it up.
  • http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=1374 1#c0074 [littlegreenfootballs.com] "Let me get this straight. You're "scary", but you were too afraid of me to even bother showing up in the OPEN JOURNAL ENTRY to respond, you had to run over here and whine like a bunch of babies. Wait, let me get my SHOTGUN... you're obviously a bunch of SCARY and dangerous people." That was your opening gambit, now you say it like you mean it, and all you've accomplished in the interim is to make an ass of yourself. How does it feel to have the
  • You're running into the same kind of thing that caused me to withdraw from posting JE's. There's a point where it becomes obvious that the people who vex you aren't interested in discussing their positions, they can't support them with reason, they can only shout.

    What passes for political discussion these days has been proscribed within such a narrow field of correct/incorrect faux rhetoric that any real elucidation of anything approaching actual reasoned exploration of ideas can't be heard over the screa
    • See my comment to this thread here [slashdot.org].

      I think you would get quite a lot out of what Dave Neiwert has to say.
    • Is it just me, or did this journal descend into complete anarchy over the weekend..... I kind of like it....

      Hmmm.... I don't so much take exception with the vitriole. Obviously, that's my thing. I take exception with 450 comments that are NOTHING but personal attacks.

      I sincerely hope that this is not an example of the 'mainstream' that us 'elitists' are so out of touch with. If it is, I fear that my pining for a few guns was not so much idle chatter as a warning sign I should take a bit more seriously....

    • "What passes for political discussion these days has been proscribed within such a narrow field of correct/incorrect faux rhetoric that any real elucidation of anything approaching actual reasoned exploration of ideas can't be heard over the screaming of scared little men with opinons they themselves don't even really understand."
      Couldn't it be that rather there is a large sweaty swarm of people who never had to interact coherantly with one another before, and now are capable of communicating on an intern
      • That makes a lot of sense, it's just not what I am talking about.

        I was discussing more what is happening in traditional media. It used to be that they wouldn't let people get on the Meet the Press and spout a bunch of lies just because they were "one side" of a discussion and hold that in contrast to "the other side," a person telling the truth, like the two were equivalent points of view.

        It used to be that someone who has been exposed as a complete fraud and a liar (like Condi Rice) would be shamed out
  • Did you see this?

    Courts first to go in right-wing revolution [palmbeachpost.com]

    Rep. Hostettler, addressing a special legislative briefing of the Christian Coalition last month in Washington, reportedly talked at length about a bill he plans to introduce. It would deny federal courts the right to hear cases challenging the Defense of Marriage Act, which bans same-sex marriage.

    "Congress controls the federal judiciary," Rep. Hostettler was quoted as saying. "If Congress wants to, it can refer all cases to the state cour

    • Oh, good. Just what I was hoping for. Terrorist islamic fundamentalists on one side and terrorist christian fundamentalists on the other....
    • See my other comment to this thread here [slashdot.org].

      I agree that the right's plan to take the ball and run with it as far and fast as they can is quite scary. The only hope is that they will seriously overreach by doing something stupid like trying to ban birth control pills.

  • Well worth the read. My apollogies to the_mad_poster but he says many of the same things only much more eloquently, but that is to be expected given that he is a professional journalist with many years of experience.

    Read Dave at http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com].

    Blurb from the site:
    David Neiwert is a freelance journalist based in Seattle. His reportage for MSNBC.com on domestic terrorism won the National Press Club Award for Distinguished Online Journalism in 2000. He is the author of Death on the Fourth of
  • When you make statements like this you're just as bed as BMetzler in generalizing "the other guy." Just because one Conservative Crack Pot decides to threaten you, doesn't mean ALL Conservatives are bad, nor does it mean that ONE individual is in any way speaking for ALL conservatives.

    You really don't need to stoke the fire. It's burning bright enough.
    • Agreed.

      I would count as one of them - a liberal conservative who even agrees with some of Bush's policies.

      I really can't side myself with either side (although I suppose I lean towards the left) - I like the human rights aspect of the left, and the economic aspect of the right.

      And I think that a right-centrist attitude is needed to take care of issues like Islamic fundamentalism. But sometimes when am a little too cynical, I think the right takes away more than it gives - science, human rights and a sens

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