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Journal superyooser's Journal: John Kerry: The Enemy's Candidate 30

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If you're thinking of voting for John Kerry, you should watch Stolen Honor, a 42-minute movie that you can view right now in its entirety for free. The movie was funded by Vietnam veterans and Prisoners of War who were tortured for years by the Vietnamese Communists. While in captivity, these POWs were subjected to recordings of John Kerry and other antiwar protesters who demonized them and thousands of other American troops with slander about actions they had not committed and claimed that the torture of American troops in Vietnam was justified. These veterans explain how the actions of the antiwar protesters prolonged the Vietnam War and encouraged the enemy captors to intensify the torture of American troops. They were being tortured to confess to being war criminals and doing horrible things. Yet, John Kerry, back on safe American soil, freely made false confessions against America's armed forces. Furthermore, as a Democrat senator for over two decades, Kerry has consistently voted against measures to help the nation's military and defense.

John Kerry may have fought for America for the 4 months he was in Vietnam, but he has been fighting against America ever since he came back. Over 30 years ago, America's enemy used John Kerry's words to justify their violence against us. Today, America's enemies use John Kerry's words (link added after original post) to justify their violence against us. John Kerry has been a consistent traitor and source of encouragement to our enemies.

Watch Stolen Honor. John Kerry stole the honor of brave American defenders. They want it back.

America wants its honor back. If John Kerry wants other nations to respect America, he should stop bashing America. He should stop spreading lies about what we stand for and what we're doing around the world. It's his and the antiwar movement's anti-America propaganda over the decades beginning with the Vietnam War that has recklessly incited the world to hate us.

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  • But Vietnam is no longer the enemy- time to get off that marijuana and find reality again, no matter how hard it is to face it.

    • "I will fight terrorists just as I fought the Viet-Cong" -- John Kerry

      As we see in Stolen Valor, and as SuperYooser points out, that is a very ominous prediction indeed.
      • So we lose our Valor- and gain a friend...sounds like an excellent way to end terrorism to me. Valor and honor is worth NOTHING if you do not eventually win the peace, is the point. And blaming Kerry for coming home and telling what he had *heard second hand* from other soldiers to Congress is about a stupid as blaming Bush for getting arrested for Cocaine Posession in the same year. Both candidates were young and stupid, so what?
        • So we lose our Valor- and gain a friend

          Marxist, you indeed have a friend [slashdot.org] in Bin Laden. You don't really care about that valor or integrity, do you.

          And blaming Kerry for coming home and telling what he had *heard second hand* from other soldiers to Congress is about a stupid as blaming Bush for getting arrested for Cocaine Posession in the same year.

          Right, one is a lie [disinfo.com] and the other is a documented event.
          • Marxist, you indeed have a friend in Bin Laden. You don't really care about that valor or integrity, do you.

            Rather that I recognize that things have a hierarchy of value- and "valor and honor" is somewhat low on the list at the moment (survival, for instance, is far more important than honor). Of course, there are things less important- for instance I would put Valor and Integrity above Economy. Bush wouldn't, but I would.

            Right, one is a lie and the other is a documented event.

            Interesting trick, but
            • Rather that I recognize that things have a hierarchy of value ... survival, for instance, is far more important than honor

              You truely are the shepard trying to roundup sheep for the surrender. On that you can only speak for yourself. You'll pardon me if I have more faith in the US than that.

              I'm talking about the Hustler article and the 1971 event that is backed up by a Texas Rangers Arrest Report.

              Larry Flynt is your source? Well, perhaps your surrender is simply for the promise of 72 virgins.
              What else
              • You truely are the shepard trying to roundup sheep for the surrender. On that you can only speak for yourself. You'll pardon me if I have more faith in the US than that.

                True enough- I believe in Works rather than Faith Alone. Faith Alone does not justify.

                Larry Flynt is your source?

                No worse that "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" being your source- the people who traded the integrity of their own war records for lying about Kerry.

                Well, perhaps your surrender is simply for the promise of 72 virgins. Wh
    • But Vietnam is no longer the enemy

      John Kerry made his "service" in Vietnam a campaign issue (after telling us in '92 and '96 that Bill Clinton's draft dodging shouldn't be a campaign issue...can you say "flip-flop"?). We're only digging into that "service" and finding stuff that he probably would prefer that people ignore.

      • Should we also dig into Bush's past and find all the stuff he'd rather people ignore? Somehow, I think 40 years of public drunkedness, getting arrested for cocaine posession, and paying for ex girlfriend's abortions would not sit well with the Religious Right base.

        Then again, perhaps it might- the way those Protestants like their testimonials...

        Still, the point is, both sides do it, and neither side should be.
        • Should we also dig into Bush's past and find all the stuff he'd rather people ignore? Somehow, I think 40 years of public drunkedness, getting arrested for cocaine posession, and paying for ex girlfriend's abortions would not sit well with the Religious Right base.

          I call bullshit. The LLL keeps throwing out these unfounded accusations, but I have yet to run across a credible source of proof. ("Fake but accurate" documents sourced from CBS News don't count.)

          • I call bullshit. The LLL keeps throwing out these unfounded accusations, but I have yet to run across a credible source of proof. ("Fake but accurate" documents sourced from CBS News don't count.)

            Thanks for calling the Texas Rangers not credible. Then again, it was Larry Flynt who dug up the original arrest reports, the original abortion bill. And he's a pornographer so he's not credible, right? There are levels of credibility- and when even Bush I's autobiography includes a story where he had to remov

            • Hate to say it, but no one takes Larry seriously. And he hasn't actually shown anything.
              • I saw it before the woman who had the abortion forced him to pull her name off the website- but hey, you keep believing that unjust war fought on a front that had nothing to do with the original attack will bring honor and valor- I don't want any honor or valor of that kind.

                There's about as much honor and valor in fighting the War on Terror in Iraq as there was fighting the War on Communism in Vietnam. Yep- plenty of honor and valor there....
        • If the issues in the past that you refer to were made cornerstones of Bush'es stump speeches, then yes. If Bush had run around saying "Vote for me, I did coke in the 70s" then his claims about doing coke should be throughly checked.

          But I don't seem to recal that being said. Kerry, on the other hand, ran a campaign (primaries) that hinged on his military service and his (yes I won it thrice) purple hearts.

          jason
          • If the issues in the past that you refer to were made cornerstones of Bush'es stump speeches, then yes.

            As I remember, his "born again" sobriety has indeed bin a cornerstone of Bush's stump speeches- but few people question him on it.

            If Bush had run around saying "Vote for me, I did coke in the 70s"

            Actually, it's more like "Vote for me, I beat Alocholism in the 1980s!"

            then his claims about doing coke should be throughly checked.

            It's not like anybody is actually throughly checking Kerry's Vietnam r
    • I didn't say it was. Osama bin Laden and the terrorists are the enemy, and they are using John Kerry's words [newsmax.com].

      My point is that regardless of who the enemy happens to be at any point in history, John Kerry seems to be more on their side than America's.

      • I didn't say it was. Osama bin Laden and the terrorists are the enemy, and they are using John Kerry's words.

        Good- as far as I'm concerned it's a good point that they're using John Kerry's words- it means they're actually listening and trying to figure out how to get out of this mess without forcing us to commit genocide.

        My point is that regardless of who the enemy happens to be at any point in history, John Kerry seems to be more on their side than America's.

        Isn't turning enemies into friends a grea
        • it means they're actually listening and trying to figure out how to get out of this mess without forcing us to commit genocide.

          Why do you assume righteous motives for these jihadist monsters? They're listening for homegrown anti-America rhetoric that resonates with a lot of Americans, rather than the stuff they come up with on their own. They don't believe what they're saying here. It's disingenuous and opportunistic. They're using it because it's believable to many Americans, thanks to John Kerry's talki

          • Why do you assume righteous motives for these jihadist monsters?

            Possibly because of the *meaning of thw word jihadist*? It doesn't matter whether the root charges against America are true or false- a jihad is a war for justice, and all it takes is a *percieved* injustice. You still don't understand that they have righteous motives? They wouldn't be jihadists if they didn't have righteous motives! Without the righteous motives, bin Laden would be nothing more than yet another mass murderer.

            They're li
            • You still don't understand that they have righteous motives? They wouldn't be jihadists if they didn't have righteous motives!

              You are evil and/or insane.

              That is all.

              • You are evil and/or insane.

                Why, because you don't understand what the word righteous means? Or is it the word Jihad that you don't understand? Both have more meaning than you think if you don't understand that there are some very real problems with the concept of Islamic Justice in Saudi Arabia- and that President Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was widely seen as a part of the problem on the Arab Street *even before Michael Moore was born*. All of the al Qaida Terrorism comes from the fact that Pr
        • it means they're actually listening and trying to figure out how to get out of this mess without forcing us to commit genocide.

          You've found the answer, just surrender. No question where your loyalties lie, to Bin Laden and Kerry. That you find them so simular is probably an honest assessment.

          By the way, as was pointed out to you previously, Kerry has no plan.

          Isn't turning enemies into friends a great American tradition? We did it at the end of WWII

          That was done by winning the war. I can't find an ins
          • You've found the answer, just surrender. No question where your loyalties lie, to Bin Laden and Kerry. That you find them so simular is probably an honest assessment.

            I'd much rather surrender (as long as it's an armed surrender, no need to repeat the stupidity of allowing 15 Saudis, 3 Egyptians, and an Iraqi, into the country to train to fly Jumbo Jets but not land them).

            By the way, as was pointed out to you previously, Kerry has no plan.

            And as was pointed out to YOU previously- there is a plan, it's
    • Judgement of actions taken by Americans during the Vietnam War has nothing to do with whether the United States currently has amicable or hostile relations with Vietnam.

      Not sure quite what you were trying to say here.
      • Simply put- that if John Kerry can turn Vietnam from an enemy into a friend- and that he claims he'll fight terrorists in EXACTLY THE SAME WAY (turning them from enemies into our friends) then why worry about "honor"? There ain't no honor in war to begin with- the only honor is in winning the peace. See everybody else who replied- they are all going on the idea that once an enemy, always an enemy.
  • Your premise is based on the "facts" as presented by others, whom state they are the source of the facts. If the facts are indeed true, then the validity of the film and other decision swaying materials is stronger.

    I put forth this, my life motto: Nothing is Ever as Easy as It Looks, and Nothing is Ever as Simple as It Seems.

    A natural drive in all human beings is the need for safety, and security. If confusion reigns, then that feeling of safety and security diminishes, and we as human beings start demand
    • The main reason to vote for Kerry is because he is the only candidate that has said he will be the president for ALL Americans.

      I've listened to some of Kerry's speeches and read about his proposals. The biggest thing I've heard is that he's the president for class warfare. Gonna tax those rich people and make them pay for the rest of you.

      He's the president for instant health care crisis. Go read about TennCare and how that's ruining one state's health care system. Look at our current Flu shot shortag

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