you must be a huge troll, first release was 5.2... Bloated? with my wm and 6 programs launched my mandriva _2010_ takes 79 MB in resident memory, I use a lightweight window manager, but kde4 isn't less bloated elsewhere if that's what you mean. And you'll be pleased to hear that Mandriva do its best to be standard compliant (ie: freedesktop) so menu changes are not likely to happen any time soon. You're talking about past releases and spread fud about it and just don't deal with the current subject : Mandriva 2010 is out, so I fear you're relatively off-topic too. On top of that, you now have the ability to upgrade from a 2009.1 to 2010.0 live, without needing to download the iso and start a new install, and from what I've heard up till now, upgrade has been fine for many people. But of course, you didn't try Mandriva 2009.1 either.