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Comment Re:Tyranny (Score 3, Informative) 252

It is true.

Actually, AFAIK (and according to googling) churches in Finland can't even get the permit as they don't satisfy the "yleishyödyllisyys" (general benefit for society) requirement to get the permit. They co-operate with separate associations/foundations exist for that purpose, though, e.g. Finn Church Aid.

There is a change to the law being planned that would allow churches and universities to conduct fundraisers, but no big overhaul that would actually be needed for the out-of-date law...

Unofficial English translation of the current Money Collection Act by the Ministry of the Interior]

Getting a permit requires a corporation or association registered in Finland, so they actually can't give the permit to Wikimedia Foundation even if they applied for one. The permit is also not given to private individuals, so you can't e.g. have a Paypal donate button without violating the law.

Submission + - Finnish Police Board Takes Issue With Wikipedia's Fundraising ( 3

linjaaho writes: Yesterday, the admin list of Finnish language Wikipedia received a request for comment from National Police Board of Finland. The Police board claims that the fundraising message appearing on the top of the Wikipedia pages is illegal fundraising and is punishable by criminal law. The Police Board asks how much money have they raised and ask for justification for the campaign.

This is not the first time the Police Board attacks fundraising. In 2012, a crowdfunded textbook Kickstarter project was delayed because a similar request of comment.


Submission + - Amazon Wipes Kindle and account; won't say why. (

rtfa-troll writes: Thinking of giving someone a Kindle or other restricted tablet for Christmas? Maybe you should think again. Amazon reserves the right to destroy it's contents at any time and won't even explain why. At least this is what Martin Bekkelund is claiming in his blog posting which includes the contents of emails from Michael Murphy at Amazon's Executive Customer Relations with the classic quotes "Please know that any attempt to open a new account will meet with the same action." and "we are unable to provide detailed information on how we link related accounts". How would you feel if your father in law's book collection suddenly disappeared from the kindle you bought him with no explanation? This story has been picked up by the UK Newspaper the Guardian although an Amazon sales rep claimed it was false to one commenter there The Guardian states that Amazon has refused to give any official comment so far. Even if this does turn out to be false, it's a good reminder of what can and will happen when DRM means that big media no longer has pirate copies to compete against. This kind of remote wipe is going to be difficult to avoid since both Microsoft and Apple also reserve the power to remotely wipe your device (though in Apple's case this is only ever known to have been used for security reasons and even Google tied Android tablets could be forced to install such a feature with a court order. Almost the only devices immune to this type of attack are third party (non Google integrated) Android tablets and Mer based tablets aimed at Linux hackers.

Submission + - Outlawed by Amazon DRM (

Pelekophori writes: From the article:

"A couple of days a go, my friend Linn sent me an e-mail, being very frustrated: Amazon just closed her account and wiped her Kindle. Without notice. Without explanation."

Comment Re:Small Market (Score 1) 284

(There is also no legal requirement to provide such Finnish-on-Finnish transcription service, so the availability of such special-needs subtitles is pretty much limited to some select shows produced by YLE, the local public broadcaster.)

Actually, there is, but it only affects YLE. They have to provide hearing-impaired subtitles to 60% of their Finnish and Swedish programming, and the required percentage grows by 10 percentage points each year until 100% of Finnish and Swedish programs need to subtitled in 2016.

Source: Law (Valtioneuvoston asetus televisio-ohjelmiin liitettävästä ääni- ja tekstityspalvelusta)

Comment How it works in Finland (Score 5, Informative) 355

Here's how it works here in Finland:
You either
a) buy the phone yourself (HTC Titan is ~590 EUR ~= 773 USD), and then have a plan without a phone. Example plans:
0.66e / month, 0.066e / min, 0.066e / sms
3.90e / month, includes 3000min in-network calls, others 0.069e/min, 0.069e/sms
38.90e / month, 3000 min to all networks, 3000 sms messages.
Unlimited non-NATted incoming-ports-open mobile broadband (HSPA+, max 15Mbps) is 13.90e / month (other speed classes exist), or 20.85e / month total for an extra SIM card ("MultiSIM") + USB modem (i.e. you get unlimited broadband in both your phone and computer for that price).
These contract are normally non-fixed-term, so you can cancel/switch operators anytime. Note that in Finland only outgoing calls are paid by the mobile user, incoming calls are paid by the caller (mobile numbers have a separate number block).

or b) buy a plan with a phone. This is a bit different from the US subsidies in that you pay *nothing* up-front, and the plans are actually the same as in (a) above, but there is an additional separate monthly cost for the phone. However, the "subsidy" is very small, only a few percents (e.g. HTC Titan total additional cost is 576 EUR, just 2.5% below normal market price). These are generally 2 year contracts. AFAIK these kind of bundling contracts are generally not allowed, but a special time-limited law was enacted in 2006 allowing such contracts to be made for 3G phones only, and it has been extended at least once since.

The prices above are for Saunalahti, but other carriers have very similar pricing and plans.

At least my impression from all this is that we seem to pay more for the phones, but our plans are otherwise way cheaper (when compared to the US)...

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