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I was driving home from hockey tonight in Seattle (I scored a goal and was +3 in a 3-2 victory, our first of the season!), and I was following a pickup truck with five stickers on the rear window. In clockwise order from the top left, they were representing George Bush, the Boston Red Sox, an American flag, the New England Patriots, and Apple Computer.

Did somebody clone me and not tell me? Fess up!

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  • Did the license plate read something like, "Mac OS X," "Perl," or "Linux?" And was there a bumper sticker for O'Reilly books? You have to consider all of your likes, not just some of them.
  • I'm totally jealous, you're in a hockey league on Thursday nights? Here in Indianapolis there are a few adult rec leagues, but they are ALL on Sundays which pisses off the wife to no end. Late nights during the week are the best by far...

    Congrats on your first win. Our team [sportability.com] just climbed to 1-6 over the weekend.
  • I saw a couple on a station wagon that were for Kerry/Edwards, Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism -- Thomas Jefferson, American Pride (with a flag), an Apple sticker, If you love your mother, support Women's Rights, and a linux fish.

    Not a clone of me (not a big Apple fan), but I could agree with all of those... I also am impressed at the bravery to have those in such a deep RED area. Kerry Edwards stickers alone usually earn a keying of your car around here. My friend up north, but who is from

    • Before I get responses, I am sure the Bush Cheney stickers can get the same treatment. Just pointing out my experience in a deep red area of Indiana (already a red state).
    • I hear stories like this from both sides, but of course I tend to hear more of them from my side, for example: http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1255607/posts [209.157.64.200] and we even have a T-shirt [authenticgop.com] now. I personally beleive this is what happens when one party starts to cultivate a sentiment of blind hate in people to accquire power. It's easy to tell what party that is when the public debate degrades to simple-minded insults, and mass hate-filled protest without opportunity for discussion [protestwarrior.com]. It amounts to an adult tempe
      • For an example of what I mean by simple-minded insults, refer to your .sig, "American Errorist". If you want to link to a discussion on why you say that, it would encourage civil public discourse, and I might actually engauge.
        • Look to any of the debates in Pudge's journals, especially those about the war. If you were a long time reader, you would know that I am a pacifist and don't believe in war generally or in this War that was launched on false (erroring?) pretenses. Going into the war, it was all about WMD... now it is about Saddam was a bad man and "don't you believe in Freedom." We can argue whether the war was a good idea anyway, but I have stated (since the start) that there was no WMD and that Hussein wasn't an "immen
          • Going into the war, it was all about WMD... now it is about Saddam was a bad man and "don't you believe in Freedom."

            Going into the war, the existence of WMD was only one of the reasons. It was not "all" about that, and IMO not even mostly. You forget -- for some reason -- all the others, including, but not limited to: near-daily Iraqi attacks on American troops for years; the threat Iraq posed to its neighbors and our troops there; the direct (harboring, financial) and indirect (allowing them to roam fr
        • civil public discourse

          I have looked at your site... The civility is evident and the hard hitting facts... hit hard. I am a changed man.

          By the way, I find your flyer drops to be particularly helpful. Good thing to point out the Catholic Church's stance on abortion, but leave out its stance on the death penalty or war (specifically the Pope's two admonishments of the current administration's War in Iraq). You can't trust people with ALL the information after all. It is better to pick and choose so th

          • Good thing to point out the Catholic Church's stance on abortion, but leave out its stance on the death penalty or war.

            Wow. The condescension is thick. You falsely make the assumption that we left this out. As I said "Backing up this flyer, was a flyer that explained in a concise manner, the stance of the Church on abortion and the relative importance to 'social welfare' concerns". Not only was it mentioned, but it was in proper context. Unfortunately, most of the Kerry Catholics I debated with (if you c
            • I was wrong then. I did make an assumption. If you covered everything in its proper context within the confines of the Catholic faith. Then you should be commended, so I commend you. Too often, that isn't the case.

              I just read a newspaper which contains the Pope's remarks. I think his support for Democracy doesn't negate his opposition to the war. I could be wrong. I'll admit that it could just be my reading.

              You make good points. Good luck to you all.

        • I also want to commend your judicisious use of a probable urban legend to advance your cause. I know it was taxing to try and test the veracity of the document before your open-minded posting of it.

          Of course, I am talking about the Slave Narrative by Will Lynch. Here is a link [umsl.edu] to the text without the insightful exegesis of your emphasis. The same source talks [umsl.edu] about the Narrative's probably questionable authenticity, excerpted here:

          I suspect that the narrator's name--Mr. Will Lynch--is a humorous put

          • Civil discourse requires facts, not errors.

            Amen. As soon as the liberals stop saying Bush was illegitimate in 2000, that the existence of WMD was the only justification for war, etc., we can start having some civility. :-)
            • Amen. As soon as the liberals stop saying Bush was illegitimate in 2000, that the existence of WMD was the only justification for war, etc., we can start having some civility. :-)

              Amen. As soon as the conservatives stop saying Bush was legitimate in 2000, that the existence of WMD was not the only justification for war, etc., we can start having some civility. :-)

              Hopefully the obvious joke came through... I'm kidding.

              I feel like we are in an episode of Futurama:

              "I say your 3 cent titanium tax goes t

          • Thanks for the info. I've posted a retraction prominently on the front page and updated the posting to reflect this. Beleive it or not, I've checked Snopes for this, and didn't find it. Using the terms "William Lynch" or "Lynch" turns up nothing, as best I can tell, on this urban legend. I do my best to avoid propagating fallacy, and apparently I missed the mark here by expecting Snopes to have the answer. I first heard this material several years ago from a respected national speaker [masonweaver.com], and found the copy fr
            • That's great and I commend you. You seem to be a decent and honest person.

              I do know that Mason Weaver is a respected speaker. The document, even as a potential urban legend, still serves to mark a climate (just perhaps not the climate that it proports to mark). All urban legends have similar educational aspects... they do tend to tell us about ourselves, our hopes and our fears.

              Good talking to you.

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