I still remember one of the first "gumstick" web servers being posted here and promptly hacked, complete with a posting of the root credentials.

I did a bit of grey hat work and did something like `cat /proc/kmem` which at the time tried to read all of the kernel memory into kernel memory and was, well, bad for the server when run as root. But it may have saved it from further harm.

ID 16542 Checking in.

I had to look that up as I knew mine was lowish but it;'s been a decade since I looked at it.

Slashdotted!

Now the question is how many here now remember when that was a thing.

Just a few miles north of the chosen location is "The Big Chicken" an iconic local landmark, newly remodeled last year. Why they didn't do it there is beyond me.

They call Compaq or HP or whoever still owns that now. We had a production VAX in 2002 when I left a place, and they would very happily send a tech to fix anything, and then dance all the way to the bank with ridiculous charges. But they *always* came quick and fixed the problem.

It's not good for random areas you are passing through, but AT&T DLS routers with WiFi use a 10 digit passcode which is a nice short key space to search if your using pyrit (https://code.google.com/p/pyrit/)

Comcast defaults to I think a 12 character passcode, but even though it's alpha-numeric they inexplicably used all uppercase, way to screw up the better security decision and needlessly limit your key space as well...

The short of the above is most people seem to leave the default settings, so grab a few modern GPU's and have a party, backup wifi will be yours in no time. Just be sure to have a good disk on the server storing all the results, they can get large.

I believe his post indicates he is an installer, not a telemarketer. Huge difference as he would be the guy climbing on the roof for people who do want DISH's service.

That is correct at that location as well, the land it sits on is reclaimed via fill dirt from dredging the river and expensive to add too. The island to the south is now leased by them and could be a growth area, it was a small naval base and has facilities, but not for heavy construction. The road being a huge causeway cannot handle the heavy materals needed for that. To the east sits the old shipyard, in use from the late 30's to the 70's but it was compeletely shut down and stripped of useful construction equipment and large areas filled in because of low level but expensive to clean up radiation left over from building nuclear attack subs in the 70's

In the end it's just cheaper to stay with a steady low level production suited to the needs of really the only customer that US yards have, the US armed forces.

I should have stated that it's multiple factors, but space is indeed one for some of the US shipyards:

This is the Ingalls Shipyard in MS https://www.google.com/maps/pl... Where some of the larger military ships are built, I can't tell, not knowing when the photo was taken, but my guess is the large ship in the river to the right is LHA-6 before being turned over to the navy. You can see there just is not space to build many at one time.

Yes, there are larger shipyards in the US, but many of them are completely surrounded by urban areas and have to room to grow. So it's not the only facter but is a real one.

I suspect it is a space limittion more than anything that prevents most western shipyards from building multiple ships that size. While this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U... ship is about half the length is is undeniably large. Had no other ships been being constructed while she was on land the yard could have handled building a second one, and *maybe* a third, but that is unlikely. There just would not have been enough ground to fit them on. Cheap labor long ago reduced shipyards in most western countries to building military ships and some extremely spicalised or luxury ships.

It can be done, but practical may not be what you would call this. Needed perhaps.

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Kyocera, which I have never used seems to be winning on the new printer front here, but I was given a few slightly used HP 4xxx series printers and just upgraded one into a monster, the thing works great, is cheap to run and may outlive me.

I am sure some Ebay searching or even craigslist could turn up several of these. With cheap parts from China they should run forever.

Everything you have said is true, so perhaps the warehouse example was a bad one, but not entirely. There are cases where the inventory is stable, or the task never changes, such as controlling a milling machine or something similar. These are the cases I was mainly referring to, or to point to a larger market, small businesses. They are the worlds worst about putting off upgrades as is because what they have is "Good Enough"

It is not an imposable task to design a device that can be stable in the long run for these tasks, and an infrastructure to maintain it for the long term. Perhaps it's time to start SBM (Small Business Machines).

This actually shows that in a way *we* in the IT field have the wrong idea. At least some of the time.

Computers *are* just equipment to the end users in say a warehousing operation. Why are we not designing systems with this in mind?

In the warehousing example much used above if you avoid the latest gee whiz features and give them exactly what is needed there is no reason why the VAX of yesteryear cannot keep doing it's job other than it can't be maintained anymore. That's a failing on IT's part though, why was the machine not designed with a 20 year lifecycle? It can be done, there is no reason it can't. Yes it will be slow at the end of it's lifecycle but it will still do it's job perfectly well. Data? We have open and well documented means of storing data now, take your pick of method, so store the data in an open standards format and do the magic inside the program.

I can see where companies would not like building and selling to the maket like this, they are killing future revenues, but speciality machine manufactures have been existing like this forever, so why aren't we doing this?

It's rare on home devices, but if it's an option it could slow him down more.

I am not aware of what attacks are out there for it though, I may have to look into that later.