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Comment Re:Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 1) 87

DropBox is banned in our organization for this and other reasons. Turns out it's more insecure than it gets credit for, Slashdot has covered that a few times and I know people who've personally been able to prove data was leaking from there. I no longer have anything in my personal Dropbox account.

Comment Re:and... no Linux client (Score 1) 87

Unless you use Java, HTML5 or some other cross platform framework.

Or make an all-dependencies included package, which can be done on Linux just like it's done on Mac OS. The NIX package manager is supposed to address this sort of thing.

When you get into the Linux world as long as your software is written properly there's a lot less supporting that has to be done, the users tend to be more advanced or are working under someone who is. As long as the stuff isn't written poorly or focused on one distro only (really - why do companies release RPM's to appease Linux people? RedHat? Really?) it should be smooth sailing.

Comment Re:Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 1) 87

Just when I thought it couldn't get much worse:

I logged into the machine with the same domain admin account I used to run the installer. I went to Add/Remove programs - I got a message that I didn't have the rights to uninstall it. I am an administrator of both the local machine and the domain.

I browsed into the AppData directory (which I don't expect the average user who has admin to their own stuff to understand) I found an uninstaller and I ran it. That worked. I then manually deleted the directories that were left.

This has a ways to go before I accept it as good corporate software. It's most certainly not a good software citizen.

Comment Re:Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 1) 87

There's no reasonable excuse not to support Linux on something like this.

Release two versions - first and up front release a Nix style package, which for all intents and purposes can be compared to a Mac .dmg file with all dependencies included. Or more accurately an APK for a desktop since they already support a version of Linux by having an Android version. With a Mac, Android, and iOS version out there already the work is done - can you say easy port?

Then for the braver types and for the distro makers release a tar.gz file with the crap in it. It doesn't matter if you release the source code or not, though of course I would prefer they did. If you make a straight up binary version someone is going to make an RPM of it and someone else is going to make a .deb - consider the work done. The nice thing about the open-source community, they'll do the work for you for free if you don't actively stop them. Look at the way nVidia drivers are handled and the way Oracle Java has distro side packages that are dedicated to downloading and installing the binaries in a way that is both easy and compliant with overbearing restrictions.

Comment Re:Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 5, Informative) 87

So, I downloaded the client.

I logged in as my test domain user - his name is Norm L. User. I right-clicked the installer exe - no there wasn't an MSI even in this day and age - and chose "Run as Administrator" which is exactly what I'm going to have to do for one off user installs.

Without asking it installed directly into my administrator accounts AppData directory.

STRIKE 3!!!!

This program is crap from a corporate perspective.

Comment Re:Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 1) 87

Looks like there isn't a test meeting to join. Pretty much all the other guys have a test meeting. I want to see if I have to do an install of anything just to join, which is the most important thing to me. My company works with many others, we have standardized on a product, but that doesn't mean I don't have to consider every other product out there since we work with so many other companies and they all want to do their own thing. You've probably gathered GoTo Meeting with its absolute demand to run in a randomized AppData directory folder and the zero backwards compatibility between versions is a thorn in my side.

I don't know if there's a strike from a joining perspective or not since there is no obvious test meeting.

Ball 1

Comment Great, another AppData directory bomb (Score 2) 87

I don't know for a fact that it runs in AppData, but the fact we lock it down to keep crypto lockers from running and the fact GoTo Meeting throws a screaming fit demanding it be not locked down AND it runs from randomized directories to prevent us from making an allowance tells me that Amazon is likely to be just as big of a pain in the ass.

I hope Amazon has learned some good practice about writing programs that can be installed as a system program OR be installed as a user program like Chrome, not as a user program or nothing like the Amazon music player (or Goto Meeting, or Spotify).

Comment I did this on my own in Phoenix. (Score 1) 357

Phoenix is a nice big grid with lots of normal "surface road" traffic, at least it was in the 90's when I lived there. I found there was so much traffic that turning left was more trouble than it was worth so I would make multiple rights around the block to get where I needed most of the time, it was faster.

Then I left for Houston - where if you see a road in one part of town and you see the road in another part of town in a straight line with the other place you saw it there's a pretty good chance it doesn't connect in the middle and and attempt at going around the block is likely to send you on a 10 mile journey of zigzagging roads in a neighborhoods with no marked way out.

Comment Re:DO IT! Lock out every other means of install! (Score 1) 183

I'm an avid Humble Bundler and I've been a Linux Gamer since my only real option was Quake, Unreal, and whatever Loki ported.

There is a HUGE and awesome selection of Linux compatible games on Steam.

Fine, not every AAA title you want is there, in fact being a AAA title tends to reduce the likelihood that it will be available on Linux AKA Steam OS, but the "shotgun buying" approach of the Humble Bundle has gotten me to try a bunch of titles I probably wouldn't have looked at otherwise and I've loved some of them.

I have got 716 games in my Steam Library - most of which were straight from the Humble Bundle, probably 690ish or so. Of that - I'm not at home so my counts not exact, 415 or so work on Linux, some of those are AAA titles, both Portals, some Star Wars games, Tomb Raider (the remake), Goat Simulator....

Among the 300 or so titles are the ones that annoy me the most. Among those that are in my Steam Library are a couple of games that work great on Linux, but aren't available for Linux on Steam. The original Bittrip Runner for example (we won't talk about how the Bitrip guys completely ignore Steam control settings and do their own thing making anything but an XBOX control useless without 3rd party software), Unreal Tournament 2004, Quake 3 - which I bought the metal tin Linux version of, Unreal Tournament 2004, all work on Linux by means other than Steam but not with Steam. I know Unreal shouldn't be difficult, one of the games I have that works on everything is Brütal Legend, which uses the Unreal Engine.

The ones that annoy me most are emulator/engine based games. Among the games I have that work on everything are a bunch of kids games, Freddy The Fish, Pajama Sam, that sort of thing for my kids, along with Gabriel Knight, Broken Sword and Tex Murphy games that run Scumm or something akin to it. I have Pajama Sam games that work on the the Play Station, Mac OS X, Mac OS 9 and some previous, Win 3.11, Linux, Windows NT platforms, you name it. They work because of the engine underneath. I have the Mortal Kombat arcade collection. I can play the Arcade ROMs on any OS I want if I want to be a pirate, but I bought the games instead. I have to play them on Windows because I bought them. THIS IS WHY PEOPLE PIRATE. You can't tell me that a AAA company doesn't have the budget to make arcade ROMs that already work on just about any OS or type of processor I want using questionable means legal on three different OS's that's pretty close to being just 2 since BSD and Linux are so similar while Freddy the Fish can work on anything I want it to - including Android. (granted the Android version didn't come from Steam - but that should be the next area Valve looks at)

No, some motivation is what is needed, I think Microsoft repeating the "IE Only" style mistake with video games would be a good start.

I'm happy to report some games that I've acquired at earlier dates as part of a bundle eventually became compatible with Steam OS/Linux. I think one or both of the Torchlight games and at least two Star Wars games had this happen. (Still not Giana Sisters despite the promise)

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