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Comment Re:The United States and Europe (Score 5, Informative) 139

Citation needed. According to the english-language version of wikipedia, what you characterize as a 2014 coup and a civil war was anything but. Wikipedia instead states that the facts on the ground were an outraged Ukranian electorate and parliament calling out then-president Yanukovych for reneging on his platform promise to have join Ukraine the European Union. Following election, Yanukovych was pressured by Russia into unilaterally doing a180 switch to support of joining the Eurasian Economic Union (Russia's knockoff version of the EU) instead. Completely against the country's wishes and his own promises. Following that nearly economically suicidal bait and switch, the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by 328 to 0. Following that vote, Russia declared (without any legit standing) that said sovereign vote was null and void ... and then went on to annex Crimea / splinter the Donbass / etc / for good measure.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

That's when the gloves came off.

Or perhaps you would be more comfortable with the Russian version of the page, which completely omits the above and spins a pro-Yanukovych narrative:

https://ru-m-wikipedia-org.tra...

Interesting to see that the Russian version of the same article is totally different (almost zero overlap with the english language version and much much longer.

Comment Re:Remember when they laughed at Trump? (Score 1) 322

Yanukovych was democratically elected on a platform of joining the European Union. Following which he was pressured by Russia into unilaterally switching to support of joining the Eurasian Economic Union instead, against the country's wishes. Following which the Ukrainian parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from office by a 328 to 0 vote. Following which Russia unilaterally declared that sovereign vote null and void and annexed Crimea / splintered the Donbass etc for good measure.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/....

Or perhaps you would be more comfortable with the Russian version of the page, which completely omits the above and spins a pro-Yanukovych narrative" https://ru-m-wikipedia-org.tra....

Interesting to see that the Russian version of the same article is totally different and much longer.

Comment Re:I Genuinely Don't Know (Score 1) 213

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Props for noting the UKL TWWAFO shoutout. Also worth noting is that the quality of Strange New Worlds' scripts and actual product so far roughly shadow that of the original Shatner-era series: a third are classics, a third are just so-so average, and a third are mediocre at best. Sadly, the other 2020s era series give us far less heart and craft.

Comment Re:Do BLM next (Score 1) 433

With respect, I don't recognize my thoughts anywhere in what you wrote. My point involved no pearl clutching whatsoever, it was simply that the scale and nature of the events of 1/6 were not comparable by any standard of critical thought and analysis to the scale and nature of the links that user Entrope posted regarding violence at events this summer involving BLM.

One of the links for example, describes police in SUVs literally running over protesters in the street, another, a Proud Boi discharging an AK-47 in the middle of a protest. I found these to be comically inept attempts at whatabout-ism (that just happened to be BLM whatabout-ism) and called them out solely on the basis of their demonstrably poor critical thinking.

My personal belief is that the complete collapse in the ability of people to engage in decent critical thinking is a bigger threat to my nation and my species than either BLM protests or the 1/6 insurrection, however bad or sad they might or might not be. My post was solely aimed at that disconnect.

Comment Re:Do BLM next (Score 1) 433

Good observation, and thanks for pointing it out: "none of the people arrested were even allegedly connected with any particular group or political affiliation" would have said it better. Though that in turn raises the interesting question of the standard for declaring someone to be Antifa: currently there is no "formal" in the sense of "objective" standard for Antifa membership: anyone can claim to be Antifa, and anyone can be alleged to be Antifa. In a better run and more critical thinking-friendly universe, "formally connected" would have been fine. In this one, not so much.

Comment Re:Do BLM next (Score 5, Informative) 433

The point that each and every one of those links make is that none of the people arrested were formally connected with any particular group or political affiliation, with the exception of Ivan Harrison Hunter, a 26-year-old from Texas and a member of the far-right anti-government Boogaloo Bois ... who both committed arson, and, illegally discharged an AK-47. Worth noting also is that the same media and surveillance coverage captured police literally driving over the bodies of protesters in SUVs.

Not exactly a laser-focused counterexample of a coordinated nationwide fringe right insurrection involving hundreds to low thousands of active participants, multiple fatalities, and a direct clear and present danger to Congress and the Vice President.

That was the point of those links *was* to point out the false equivalency here, correct?

Comment Re:Politics (Score 1) 557

On one hand, the actual insurrectionists themselves in their own words believe that Trump has been telling them to take back the country by any means necessary for weeks if not months, and that his words to them on 1/6 were that he, personally and literally, would walk with them and support their actions to do so, also by any means necessary.

On the other hand are claims that Trump's initial speech on 1/6, in and of itself and per se, did not meet the legal standard for inciting insurrection.

Assuming for the sake of argument that both things are true, context is all. In this context, Trump took no actions and made no announcements to quell the violence and the clear and present danger to the 435 + 1 for many hours.

Sometimes no actions and no words speak louder than actions and words. The weeks since the election have been filled with dog whistles to the dogs of (civil) war and insurrection. No cry of havoc was necessary, it was all a wink and a nod. Thankfully, impeachment is a political penalty for a political crime (newsflash to the clueless) and in this case be sufficient to help ensure a transition to the next administration.

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