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Comment Re:There's no risk whatsoever (Score 1, Troll) 90

How does the AI risk compare with the risk of allowing regimes like the IRGC to have nuclear weapons?

Well, some people think AI will extinctify us within four years, whereas if the IRGC gets nukes they'll figure out like everyone else that they can't actually use them except in self defense without getting erased, so the only difference will be that we won't be able to try crush them anymore.

You'd think common sense would make you want to go after the easy and obvious things first.

Yes, tell us how easy the current effort is turning out to be. Someone grabbed a tiger by the tail and can neither subdue it nor let go. The IRGC is probably laughing its ass off.

Comment Re:Pedestrian or vehicle accidents? (Score 5, Informative) 241

[ Disclaimer: I'm a Tesla driver, since 2018, and have FSD on my car ]

Tesla's FSD and Waymo's approach are wildly different, enough so that you can't really compare them. The biggest two differences are: 1) Musk's cheap, so Teslas only use cameras to figure out what's going on around them; Waymos use cameras, ultrasonic sensors, radar, and lidar; 2) Waymos are only deployed on specific roads and streets that have been very heavily surveyed and Waymos have been trained on.

I trust Tesla's FSD about as far as I can throw it, and while it's been helpful and prevented an accident or two for me when I've been distracted, it's basically a glorified lane assist and cruise control. I'd not hesitate to fall asleep in the back of a driverless Waymo.

Comment Re:Oh Noes! (Score 1) 77

They sell it to the government. The government is partaking of these services. THE GOVERNMENT IS VIOLATING THE 4TH AMENDMENT!!!! ....using Flock cameras.

Agreed, and I never said otherwise. If the police beat you with a club while in custody violating the constitution, the club manufacturer, say Acme, isn't violating the Constitution. Only the police are even though they're using Acme clubs.

But Flock is still not violating the Constitution. The fact that you seem incapable of understanding that distinction (and typing in ALL CAPS) doesn't make you right.

Your cell phone carrier is not violating the Constitution even though they are collecting your location data constantly. Neither is Apple nor Google. It's not unless the government (and only the government) searches through that data, especially without a warrant, that it's a problem.

Again, distinction. Distinctions matter. If you still get get it, well, I don't know what to tell you.

Comment Re: Oh Noes! (Score 1) 77

The OP directed said Flock was violating:

Won't someone PLEASE think about the poor corporate overlords?

They're only violating the constitution so that they can hire more employees!

The story is about Flock. The OP said "corporate": Flock (not the police) is a corporation. Therefore, the "They" in "They're" refers to Flock being able to hire more employees. The story was about Flock laying off employees. There's no sensible way Flock wasn't meant as the entity allegedly doing the violating.

Comment Re: Oh Noes! (Score 1) 77

Unless you can cite the specific ruling and how it's relevant to a private company collecting data, I have no reason to believe you.

Flock collecting data is no more a violation of the Constitution than your cell phone carrier (or Google or Apple) collecting your cell phone location data.

It's not until the police search that data without a valid warrant that it becomes an issue; but there mere collection of the data by Flock violates nothing.

Comment Re:Oh Noes! (Score 1) 77

IS THE GOVERNMENT THEN VIOLATING THE 4TH AMENDMENT (using Flock cameras)?

Yes, but the OP claimed Flock (not the government) is violating the Constitution. Flock isn't; the government is, but when (and only when) they actually search through the data. Flock merely collecting all the data is not a violation of the Constitution. You need to learn to make careful distinctions.

I am a US citizen and shall be secure in my person and papers.

Fun fact: the Constitution, specifically the rights granted by the Bill of Rights, apply to all people, not citizens. The fact that you're a citizen is irrelevant.

If they have a dragnet of everyone's personal information (their location at all times) and have to search through it, they need a specific warrant signed by a judge.

Yes, they do. But this has nothing to do with Flock recording the information in the first place. Again, Flock is committing no violation. It's not until the police (not Flock) search through the data that a possible violation occurs (depending on the warrant).

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