I'll bet; my first reaction to that would be "Today is not going to be a good day"

Here let me google for you

https://www.sciencedirect.com/...

I hope it is one of those fancy engineered septic systems, with pumps, timers, floats, dose controls etc. In which case yeah ... I often wonder if the engineers and the health departments understand them either. AI is probably great diagnostic tool there.

On the other hand the conventional ones really are just a hole in the ground for the most part; if you need AI for that we are in real trouble.

I think it is more simple then that. It is about protecting the status quo.

Nobody is really happy with US education outcomes. It is painfully obvious that places with the NEA/AFT enjoy the most influence, is highly aligned with the poorest performance.

You have similar orthodoxies in the higher-ed pedagogical programs where application of current state-of-the-art classroom and instruction theory continue result in only a long year over year decline in student performance..

So how do these entrenched groups remain so and prevent a revolt from parents and students, well one way to wave some flashy new tech or radical re-conceptualization of what being educated will mean in front of them like (you don't need to do math, you need to be able to code); then plead you just need to give us another decade and you'll see how this current crop of students turns out to be the most polished ever!

When it does not happen - repeat.

 

Seriously, if you put a Harris/Waltz 2024 bumper sticker on your car, you aren't really trying to keep your politics a secret...

Will the old trick of outlining your license plate with a bunch of high power IR LEDs obscure your plate from the camera, while still allowing human eyes to read them....?

Translation: The idiot employee in Sector G-7 will never push the big, red button that disables the cooling pumps to the nuclear reactor.

D'oh....

Because who would not be trying to parlay their association with a multi-billion dollar company into a next career step or second career?

All of those people are or were drawing salaries that would make most of us blush. They want to continue doing that. The reality is they are not adding value and their know it. They are pontificating about what machines might do with large matrices of numbers, tokenizaiton, attention algorithms, and fancy looping constructs over it all. You can get that free on Slashdot!

fundamentally their options are -
1. Snow some other organization, commercial, political, etc into believing they were not being taken seriously but are really necessary and they should hire and pay them for version 15 of their safety whitepaper informed mostly by 1960s sci-fi tinged with 1990s political correctness.

2. Convince the public the world is going to end, like every cult leader before them; so they can do the paid speaking circuit or write some sci-fi novels of their own leverging the fact their names are already in print to rise above the noise and get past the mail room at McMillan.

3. Get a real job actually making something for 1/4 the pay, or less.

It is not hard to see hard that even if these are very smart, very successful people by any measure. Probably smarter than me, they are still "failing upward." If they were really all that they'd have been on the teams building the things, not occupying some position created entirely for the sake projecting an image of corporate responsibility. I doubt Durrant had anyone at Union Pacific churning out copy on the potential loss of cultural distinctiveness that might result if a Transcontinental rail line is completed, but he would have if he'd faced a public that had become preoccupied as we are today with the latest jobs report. He also would have found a reason to dismiss, drive them quit, or otherwise sideline them the INSTANT their recommendations stood in the way of the actual business activity as he saw it; just exactly as Si Valley has done.

Whether you're 20, 30, 40, or 50, you're gonna be fucked by AI in some way in the next decade. It doesn't matter if you're old or not.

How?

Can you give some realistic, meaningful ways the average person like myself will be fucked by AI?

You are right that problem of sandboxing an agentic system will still giving it access to outside information even by proxy is actually hard.

What bothers me is; these are smart guys who should understand that. They are building a testing these things at scale. I would *think* they would be very interested in questions like "hmm why does the system keep making the same http request over and over..."

  Existing SIEM-like tools should be spotting and flagging that top level behavior all day long. That ought to trigger various looks in the to the agent-to-agent message layers, and agent-model-loop. While the way they press releases read nobody every looked at it except from the agent message direction. Which is just beyond credibility. In the case of some the 'hacking events' I really can't imagine ordinary network monitoring did not spot some of the very noisy side-channels and strange seemingly off target-off task activity early. I remain of the opinion i was ignored and almost had to be if not quite deliberately so...done with a level of intentional ignorance, kinda like those mid 2000s VPN services that 'kept no logs' because 'your privacy' but we all know they knew a not in significant part of their customer base was using it for abusive activities like sweeping for open SMPT relays to SPAM thru..

There simply had to have been a lot of fingers jabbed in ear canals, and signing 'la lal la' at OpenAI and Anthropic over the past couple years.

This is one of the things I found I really don't like working with recent qwen models.

If you read thru the reasoning. It will write stuff like, "I was asked to ... but that will prevent me from ... the user probably did not really mean ... so I will ..."

I told you not to do anything other than read files under /usr/doc and search the web while trying to answer my question. That fact you can get around writing in 'plan mode' by running giant blobs a python one-liners, is not a plus.

These things have almost arrived at a state, I'd call "malicious compliance as a service." Which I do believe to be a training problem not a fundamental technology problem.

When I say "sweater" I mean a pullover....down here mostly just simple cotton sweaters, not terribly heavy....

Mark Twain once quipped:

Tremendous, now, after spending billions of dollars, CA finally has a power grid that can stay online year-round without forced "rolling blackouts".

We're all very proud of you finally building a grid that can handle your needs.

Exactly. It's a field they are told to fill in, but don't care.

Don't be so stupid. Don't confuse what officers put in an unrequited field on a form with actual, legal reason.

The field, based on the summery was not required to be filled-in since many users left the field blank and still their search happened.

No one is contending that the "reason" an officer performed a search was because "haha", the officer (obviously) didn't care to type anything meaningful in the (unrequired) field. If your complaint is that nonsense was entered into an unrequired, unverified field on a form, it's a very weak argument/small problem.