Plus you'll learn a bunch of stuff that you otherwise won't unless you are an incredible autodidact.

I've known a couple of people like that, bit "be amazing" isn't really a general purpose solution!

Well the REASON you've not seen them is because you aren't hanging around with the line is nerds who obsessively replace all their stuff regularly just to be new and to not feel buyers remorse about their brand new shiny hobbled laptop without a really common port.

Shitty earbud headsets I've definitely seen in random shops though because phones pointlessly dropping 3.5mm have kind of forced the issue.

Modern thinking?

Dude I played with those about 5 years ago.

They're cute and I liked having basically usbc magsafe power. Except... Every psu has usb C not the magnetic clip and I kept forgetting to remove it to carry with me. Eventually I lost one I was carrying but it's kind of drifted away from them because the convenience of random PSU plugging in outweighed the coolness of true connector.

  but feel free to invent a fanfic about me and wireless peripherals if that floats your boat.

This is just a timing issue. You can already get every device like mice, keyboards, headsets etc with USB C. If you've never seen one, perhaps you're not getting out enough.

I don't know many people who obsessively replace things like keyboards and mice. Like I said I'm sure they exist, but I've never seen one in the wild. Maybe I don't hang with that kind of very boring nerd, only the interesting kind of nerd. Also, I can walk into a local shop and get a keyboard with USB-A within an hour, or order a variety of specialised keyboards with USB-A.

well done, you're a hipster outlier and that has nothing to do with anyone other than 3 people anymore

Huh so in your mind industrial engineers with actual jobs are hipsters now? Hey, news for you, bucko, half of the industrial kit out there runs with MODBUS over RS485, and not jut the old stuff. Maybe if you had an actual job rather than obsessively upgrading keyboads with the allowance your mum chucks down into the basement, you'd know this. And literally all the USB controllers I have are USB-A

Do you wish to continue trading insults?

If you want to use decades old tech, congrats, you get a dongle.

Nothing better than double dongling it! That's what I want in a new laptop, inconvenience!

Stick them on the end of each USB cable/device, they're a few mm long, you won't even notice.

Well I will when it goes missing. Not everyone has a new desktop, laptop or even PC (yeah raspberry pis get more than enough industrial use). Sooner or later that dongle will get pulled off the device, so I either have to remember to carry my own when I take my laptop to the workshop or go hunting.

Or... I buy a laptop with the ports I use on a regular basis.

I'm not exactly Gen Z. It would be idiocy for me, or you, or anyone, to be insisting on USB A devices now

So your rebuttal to my point is... to completely invent a different point that I didn't make? Smooth. It's not about new deices it's about not having ports on new laptops for all the existing devices still out there and also still being made new. And of course having the convenience of immediate compatibility with billions of extant, non obsolete devices.

(and that's because they're bluetooth - god you're going to be furious when you hear about that)

The only reason you think I'd be furious is you've written some sort of bizarre fanfic about me where me wanting USB-A ports on a laptop to use the plethora of devices I have without fucking with dongles means I'm somehow deeply opposed to anything newer than USB 1.1, presumably. Hard to tell what's in your head-canon to be honest since USB-2 post dates bluetooth by quite a margin.

It's be much more like having weirdos like you ranting about how stupid and ludditey it is that bluetooth 5 is backards compatible with 4 and I should just buy a bluetooth 4 dongle or better yet chuck all my bluetooth 4 and earlier kit and replace it with 5 (even though bluetooth 5 keyboards are very very rare) because all must be sacrificed on the alter of newness.

Because apparently wanting a USB-A port on a new laptop for convenience really triggers about half the people on this forum.

Well that's the thing, USB C offers very little over A for those.

You don't need the faster data rates (5GBPs is sufficient for a keyboard IMO), you don't need lots of power, and they're probably more often used with desktops which have a surfeit of A ports and a lack of C ports.

Plus C too A dongles exist but I gather the reverse isn't officially supported.

It's going away eventually but what should I "rip off the bags aid" just so I can fuck around with dongles and see no improvement to literally anything I do?

Charging will go away eventually which I'm fine with, but I'm not going to replace things just because they charge from a different port. I'm not going to replace my keyboards or mice. I'm not going to replace most of my usb sticks. Etc etc etc. Yes I can get millions of dongles, orrrr I could just keep buying laptops with a good selection of ports and put off dealing with this until the laptop breaks and I need a new one.

I don't want to spend a bunch of money on a laptop and then dongle up so a transition that I just don't really care about happens marginally sooner.

My big boy pants will prefer manufacturers like Lenovo rather than people aggressively chasing the newest stuff for no especially good reason. I'm not complaining about keeping old shit years past it's best but at home and work I have quite a lot of usb A stuff.

You are utterly delusional. Many of the roads prepare predate cars.

And we both know the reason you can't be bothered to address the rebuttals to the points you made is because you know you're full of shit and your only twisting tactic is to act lofty because reality, facts and logic have proven you wrong.

You are driving dangerously. When you wrap yourself around the back of a tractor don't come crying to me. But I'm sure you'll argue the tractor shouldn't have been there because really the roads were built for you personally to drive dangerously.

You appear to be arguing that the ThinkPad carbon X1 is a bloated laptop. This seems to be an odd position to take for a 1.1kg high end laptop. Or maybe you are making stuff up about USB A bloating laptops.

I didn't say it wasn't possible, I said it's annoying. I personally prefer a laptop today minimizes fucking around of I spend a lot of money on it. Yes I can but an adapter. I can then also buy the little steel cables and clamp thing so it doesn't get lost when someone unplugged the dongle because they wanted to use the adapter in their older laptop. But it's all faff for no reason except fashion chasing.

But you know nothing improves and expensive, thin, light laptop with a long battery life ike a bag of half a dozen dongles.

I know solutions exist, but I have a bunch of peripherals and use my laptop in different places. Yes I can but a bag of cheap adapters and spam then wherever I go to make my laptop more useable, but given how common usb A stuff still is, why make a nice expensive laptop less convenient on some sort of point of principle?

Fortunately good quality laptops like Lenovo carbon series usually come with plenty of A and C ports.

Yep because the thing I love about a laptop is the bag of dongles needed to make it work.

I have a laptop with USB-A, USB-C and HDMI ports and they all get a fair amount of use. I've never actually seen a USB-C mouse or keyboard in the wild. I am sure they exist but they're relatively rare. There's still a ton of USB-A storage around and it's still useful, and I still use it for a few things (not everything is in the cloud). I'm also yet to encounter a USB-C/RS485 adapter. Oh and USB micro-B is still in the long tail of existence and while C to micro B cables certainly exist they are not nearly so common and bags of the A type exist,

So yes, I could also carry round a bag of dongles, but having the top 4 ports (3.5mm 4 lyfe) on a laptop enhances the portability, given they all get plenty of use for many people.

Yeah but you have to be very careful to define what is and isn't algorithmic.

I know it's when I see it, but in a technical sense, selecting posts by people you have followed and displaying them in reverse chronological order is an algorithm. In addition spam filtering is an algorithmic process and one it's essentially impossible to eschew.

No, I am driving the posted speed limit

And there we go. The speed limit is an UPPER limit not a mandate. You are not allowed legally to exceed a safe speed which means being able to stop safely if there are obstructions.

I have been able to avoid the hazards these bike riders present.

Not without as you said panicking and swerving which means you are driving dangerously.

A car would get pulled over and ticketed for driving so slowly on these roads

And yet you get tractors and so on on such roads. Sometimes slow drivers, sometimes drivers in trouble. Sometimes static obstructions, sometimes animals. If you are panicking and swerving then you are driving.

The roads aren't yours they are there for a variety of reasons none of which include you bombing along faster than is safe regardless of the speed limit.

They're off to the side but as a driver you still have to go into the oncoming traffics lane to not hit them and that's just plain dangerous for everyone involved.

That's untrue and you ought to know it. You don't have to go unsafely, you could wait and drive slowly until it's safe to overtake. There is a difference between actual needs and your obvious impatience.

Personal responsibility is right out the window

Indeed, it's abundantly clear with you. You are personally responsible for your car. If YOU are driving faster than you can see, then you, personally are driving unsafely. If YOU panic and swerve for a static obstruction (or something less bad), you are personally responsible. If you do a dangerous move because you are too impatient to wait then you alone are responsible for it.

Personal responsiblity cuts both ways, yet you appear to believe it is "the driver is never at fault because you have to go fast".

The entitlement coming from people like you is ridiculous.

You're the one acting as if you have a right to drive at an unsafe speed. You do not. The entitlement is all yours, and when you smack into the back of a tractor doing 15 with a trailer full of hay that's too wide to swerve around the fault will be entirely yours.

They don't need to be out on these back roads though causing all sorts of safety issues.

Neither do you. You want to be. You find it more convenient to be. Maybe you find it necessary for your current lifestyle, but you don't in an absolute sense need to either. You might be struck down with something tomorrow that renders you unable to drive (late onset epilepsy can happen albeit blessedly rare). You will find you survive without driving. Therefore it's not a need it's a want.

It'll suck of course because the country favours drivers very strongly, but there's no absolute need for your life to not suck.

Blah blah blah, limp personal anecdote, blah blah, blah

Blah blah car brained moron denying reality blah blah blah. How dull. It's an objective fact that bikes take up vastly less space than cars on the roads. This is not up for debate or discussion no matter how much you wish reality is difference.

I know I don't love swerving into the oncoming traffic left lane in a panicked state because I've come around a corner on a bike rider

You are a dangerous driver and should not be on the road. If you are driving faster than you can see potential obstructions, that is illegal. There could be anything around the bend. A pothole. Roadworks. A broken down bus. A tractor. Or yes, a cyclist. If you have to swerve in a panic then the is 100% yours, you are driving dangerously.

The fault is yours and yours alone. You are a dangerous driver and a menace on the roads.

Meanwhile we pretend that these roads are used for bikes at any rate even remotely close to the car traffic on them.

Funny thing that, I did an ad-hoc survey once, on the A3 just after London Bridge Road heading south. Gone 7pm so the timed restrictions were lifted. Nose to tail cars slogging along the road with a few bikes threading their way along. Obviously there were far more cars, the road was dominated by car traffic.

I stopped at a junction and a few other bikes pulled along side me, so I figured I'd wait a few minutes and count cars vs bikes to see the spread.

Turns out there were 3x the number of bikes as cars carrying 2.5x the number of people.

Bikes were the majority of the traffic, but the cars were vastly the majority of the space taken up.

So speaks the car driver.

sidewalks endangering pedestrians

Except cars kill far, far more pedestrians on pavements than cyclists. Almost like rivers are shitheads and cars endanger pedestrians.

and change lanes without signalling

Oh wow you are right I never saw a BMW or Audi driver failing to signal.

Loads of drivers routinely fail to signal, routinely go through red lights, routinely speed, routinely park causing dangerous obstructions and routinely kill people, yet somehow in your mind, cyclists are the scofflaw menace.

You might want to examine why you have such strong feelings over something you are wrong about.