Thank you for that feedback, and I agree. My mind bends towards models of societies that require a small time in the Military, like Israel. Or.. this may not be a good example, but I have met a few Cubans, and they seem healthy and smart. Maybe I should say that people have the option to take two classes or to lay on their fat stupid asses until they die? I try to make the concept in my mind of what a utopia could be, but the fact that people are stupid and greedy keeps getting in the way. If you have any ideas, I am all ears. I for one would love to live in the world where I could make my nut by taking 2 college classes a semester.

Seems to me we are at the horizon of where AI and Robots to do all of the food production, house construction, and transportation. What are us meat sacks supposed to do now?

I talk out of my ass about how Corporations owning homes in America is a bad thing. You gave me a data point so I can back that up a bit. I think that a strong middle class is important for a Democracy. Others think that giving all the money to the Rich is a good thing for Democracy. ???

My thinking is... as an Electronics Engineer and a Software Engineer, the Chinese can out program, and out produce nearly any American company at this point. We cant even cost effectively make a circuit board in the USA. Chinese can make it at half the cost, and twice the quality. No shit. That is not Chinese Propaganda, it is a testimonial from an American Tech worker.

I am pretty sure that in the Star Trek Utopia, the goal of every member was to improve themselves. Two College level classes, or Trade school classes every semester, of your choice, would allow a person to do that. It is four hours a day and with the expectation that every 6 months or so, a paper or product from each class would be produced. Sure some may fail, many do mediocre work, and some are "stars", and that would perhaps reflect on your standing in society, instead of how much money your daddy gave you.

My mind keep circling back to how we make a Star Trek type of a Utopia. This is my latest attempt: Everybody in society must take two college or trade school type classes. They must produce something, like when a Doctorate writes a paper, or a Carpenter makes a cool kitchen cabinet. The rest can be done by AI or bots, and wealth can be distributed based in need instead of greed.

My understanding is that the Chinese, for a long time, aborted female babies. My gut says that is repugnant, not to mention that as a guy, I want more women around me than men. I have yet to think out a coherent, consistent belief about this, I just think that it is terrible.

When you put it that way... well. you are right. I am wrong. Thank you for setting me straight.

That irony was not lost on me. To "transition" the discussion into gun rights. I think common sense gun laws should be put into place. When I talk about it on other forums, I seem to get drowned out by bots. But, under 21? no mass murder weapons for you. Should anybody in the USA have mass murder weapons? I think it should be debated. Should a person be allowed to buy 1000 bullets in a three month time span? Why? These thoughts may not have prevented Kirks murder by a nutcase, but it would prevent at least half of the murders in the USA if instituted. and OMG!! The Government is taking away my rights?? Oh bullshit.

I would say to Impeach Trump, but that has been done twice, and the orange one just does not go away. I guess the MAGAs love their Oligarch.

This is the example of a typical MAGA. They call you names, say that you are the "problem", and out of all political deaths in the USA, MAGAs kill 6 of their so called "enemies", to one from the so called "left". The MAGAs are the sick ones, but they live fact free, talk over you, they lie. They think they "own you". That is just bullshit.

One aspect of the "pro-life" movement that should be considered, I think, as a male, is control over women. If a woman can simply have an abortion, or have birth control, then men have less control over women. I see it in myself, how I want control over any other person at random, and I try to snuff it out. I feel it is a character flaw in myself. The only person I have control over is myself. I think an indicator of a control freak is if they are "pro-life", in that they really can't control themselves, so they feel this insane need to control other people.

MAGAs take one example, and generalize it to groups of people. To me it is like they can not think, that they almost de-humanize themselves. I am sorry, but in this moment, I am having a hard time to think that MAGAs are "people". They just seem like emotional animals. Perhaps a civil war is possible, and I know I am not on the side of the MAGAs, I am on the side of rational human beings.

Thank you, I do believe that many years of experience reading history, and a few years of listening to right wing nut jobs like Trump saying "ANTIFA" over and over again qualifies me to give an opinion. I keep on asking MAGA's, asking you to define who is ANTIFA? Where is their headquarters? Who are their leaders? It is just a vague term for people that they hate. The people that MAGAs hate are the people who believe in the Constitution of the United States of America.

I think that Adolph Hitler would disagree that casting blame is useless, and nothing will be done. The self proclaimed MAGAs who declare themselves and are real, are blaming ANTIFA who is a made up group with no leader. Now the MAGAs want to round up Americans who believe in the Constitution of the United States and throw them/us in Jail.