> I still find the studies to be biased

Oh I don't doubt there is some bias. But I'm not seeing how that could even start to make a significant dent in the results.

> the Left in America is motivated, motivated, by violent envy. Emotional, strident, extreme envy. It is expressed in many ways. Physical violence is only one means. Legislation, media reporting ...

I hear people saying the same kind of stuff about the right and I don't see that's any more wrong that what your saying about the left.

But all the references I'm finding of left vs right violence are all saying the amount of ideological and political violent acts from the right are much higher:

"assessing the differences between far-left and far-right ideologically motivated fatal violence between 1990 and 2020. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed." - https://ccjls.scholasticahq.co...

Grok's referenced response to the question "Are people on the left or right more likely to commit acts of political violence" - https://x.com/i/grok/share/9Ip... For example "Right-Wing Dominance in Lethality: Since 2010, far-right extremists killed over 130 people (more than any other cause, including jihadists)"

"US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence ... The vanished study opened with: “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.” - https://www.theguardian.com/us...

> The rank and file Left in America is motivated by violent envy.

How does the following fit in your analysis?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

> Nope....they've been the same since I was born....

Women much more than men wear dresses, men much more than women wear ties, I think it's things like that that are considered gender roles (and those particular roles haven't changed much in the last hundred years).

Those gender roles are socially constructed while sexual roles are based on the genetic and biological evolutionary average biological differences between the female and male sexes.

Do you see how those roles are different ?

> I've yet to meet someone that was not readily categorized as "dick" or "no dick".....that I've ever known.

Yeah, maybe it's more that you haven't been made aware.

Do you think gender roles (social) and sexual roles (biological) are different things?

Not sure what you mean?

> The idea that e-waste is purely evil

Who is saying that?

> E-waste contains vast quantities of recoverable metals like gold copper and palladium, often at concentrations far higher than those found in natural ore. Properly processed, this waste becomes an urban mine reducing the need for new extraction that destroys forests and consumes energy.

Isn't that from more to a lot more expensive than ore extraction?

> The informal economies in Asia and Africa that dismantle electronics, while currently unsafe, could with modest mechanization become decentralized recycling hubs creating local wealth instead of dependence on Western scrap exports.

If "could with modest mechanization" was possible would it not be done everywhere already?

> Moreover the rapid turnover of devices accelerates technological obsolescence which drives efficiency so the overall energy per computation or per bit transmitted keeps dropping. E-waste then is not a planetary sin but a symptom of progress that can be redirected into circular growth rather than decay.

A drop in energy per computation doesn't rely on or require designed obsolesce and wasteful inefficiencies.

> The full context is that the Denver post-2019 “defund the police” murder count spike is undeniable

The spike is clear. But I don't think "defund the police" is a convincing cause.

Before I try to explain what I mean, can you confirm what you're saying (or correct me if I'm wrong) : the 2021 spike in murder rate is directly related to or is caused by the rise of "defund the police", and the the continuous and rapid downturn in murder rates form 2022 until January 2025 is related to or caused by the fall of "defund the police" ?

> Link, please...

"assessing the differences between far-left and far-right ideologically motivated fatal violence between 1990 and 2020. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed." - https://ccjls.scholasticahq.co...

"US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence" - https://www.theguardian.com/us...

"The vanished study opened with: “Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives. In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.”

Grok's referenced response to the question "Are people on the left or right more likely to commit acts of political violence" + "Right-Wing Dominance in Lethality: Since 2010, far-right extremists killed over 130 people (more than any other cause, including jihadists)" - https://x.com/i/grok/share/9Ip...

Thanks for taking the time to make a long comment with some links.

I wasn't wondering about the research, I was curious if you were referring to supplements when you used the word overload.

The overall research is pretty much on the fence about eating healthy foods like tofu and how that affects menopause symptoms, with specific results being it helps some people, others see no effect and even some others see symptoms worsen.

One thing I that became clearer for me from your links is that baby soy formula is bad. That makes senses, giving a rich source of phytoestrogens a a crucial time in development when the normal diet contains zero phytoestrogens is at best misguided. But once an infant transitions to regular food it doesn't seem like eating even large amounts of soy beans is a problem.

The numbers from China and Japan seem to back that up, their average diets are healthier overall, include lots of soy beans and avoid soy baby formula compared to the average diet here.

I'm tempted to believe that here the problems you're referring to (compared to China and Japan), on average come from a conjunction of soy baby formula, overall less healthy diets, soy supplements, be they protein supplements or all of the soy based supplements that are used in a lot in foods and especially in processed junky foods, and from our on average higher BMIs and the effect that can have on our hormonal balance.

> Murders are the best proxy to track as this avoids statistical shenanigans - they can’t be easily transmogrified by “equitable” prosecutors, etc, into misdemeanors, etc.

The user I responded to referred to violent crime rates, that's why I linked to those rates and they seem legitimate.

> These had an undeniably large spike versus 2019 starting in 2020.

Yes, interesting, on average from various sources, there was a large spike in 2020 that peaked in 2021 and has been on a sharp downturn for 2022, 23 and 24 and now 2025 seems to be on course to continue the trend. - https://www.consumershield.com... + https://www.statista.com/stati...

> What's more 2025 Denver ... Insiders credit the murder drop to deportations, whereas credulous reporters credit it to dramatically improved policing methods - magic, eh?

How does that track the clear downward trend is since 2022 ?

> As proof, let’s consult the 2021 100% leftist-approved fact check guide: Violent crime rates haven’t spiked.

Looks like that's true ?

Violent crime rates are at historical lows and didn't spike in 2021 - https://www.statista.com/stati... + https://ncvs.bjs.ojp.gov/multi...

> Also, the evidence isn't slam dunk

That was my impression too. I don't know who did it or even if someone did but all you listed is clearly circumstantial and the only thing they've got is the story they've made up and that's not in any way evidence of guilt. Any half competent lawyer would show that.

I'm also amazed at the number of people here who actually seem to think this kind of stuff is evidence of guilt.

> The Left has a real violence problem, and no matter how you try to hide it.. it's starting to really show.

I get you could have that impression and there has been a strong rise of far left violence in recent years but there has also been a strong rise in far right violence, and though there have been year to year ups and downs in numbers, all studies seem to show that the prevalence of far right violence has always been and still is, on average, much higher than far left violence.

"US justice department removes study finding far-right extremists commit ‘far more’ violence" - https://www.theguardian.com/us...

"The Rise of Far-Right Extremism in the United States" - https://www.csis.org/analysis/...

"this exploratory study seeks to address this gap in the literature by assessing the differences between far-left and far-right ideologically motivated fatal violence between 1990 and 2020. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed. Results indicate over the past three decades the overall prevalence and deadliness of far-right extremism far outweighs that of the far-left, even though far-left violence has increased over the last five years. The implications of these results and corresponding policy suggestions are discussed." - https://ccjls.scholasticahq.co..."

Grok's response, with references, to the question "Are people on the left or right more likely to commit acts of political violence" - https://x.com/i/grok/share/9Ip...

> Are you concerned about phytoestrogen overload?

Overload ? Like what plants for example ? I've read that foods like tofu aren't a risk and are thought to be associated with lowering breast cancer risk.