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Comment Re:Nothing compared to major asteroid hit (Score 1) 502

If it wasn't clear, my intent was to say that sequestration is a science-based approach, but demanding Western countries to hand over $100B/year to developing countries is just wealth redistribution. The former may or may not be feasible, but it at least attempts to mitigate the problem. How does the later "solve" AGW?

MUNJURUL HANNAN KHAN: I'm hopeful that at the end of the [U.N. climate talks in] Warsaw talk, we'll get outcome on legally binding agreement process, that we are hoping to develop a good text by 2015. The second thing, we're asking for $70 billion for three years. And by 2020, they will mobilize $100 billion for long-term financial support for the developing nations.

Comment The planet doesn't give a rat's behind (Score 1) 502

It'll keep right on orbiting the sun, and may eventually evolve different life forms long after we're gone.

Yeah, we might kill ourselves off and any number of our contemporary species with us, but the planet doesn't care and will not be put out at all.

The planet went along just fine when the cyanobacteria wiped out almost all other life on the planet by spewing toxic oxygen into the atmosphere.

The planet went along fine after the asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs.

The planet went along fine through multiple "snowball earth" cycles.

Comment Re:Wagering with lives (Score 1) 502

Hypothesis and Disproof

“2006: Expect Another Big Hurricane Year Says NOAA”—headline, MongaBay .com, May 22, 2006

“NOAA Predicts Above Normal 2007 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration press release, May 23, 2007

“NOAA Increases Expectancy for Above-Normal 2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, gCaptain .com, Aug. 7, 2008

“Forecasters: 2009 to Bring ‘Above Average’ Hurricane Season”—headline, CNN, Dec. 10, 2008

“NOAA: 2010 Hurricane Season May Set Records”—headline, Herald-Tribune (Sarasota, Fla.), May 28, 2010

“NOAA Predicts Increased Storm Activity in 2011 Hurricane Season”—headline, BDO Consulting press release, Aug. 18, 2011

“2012 Hurricane Forecast Update: More Storms Expected”—headline, LiveScience, Aug. 9, 2012

“NOAA Predicts Active 2013 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, NOAApress release, May 23, 2013

“A Space-Based View of 2015’s ‘Hyperactive’ Hurricane Season”—headline, CityLab .com, June 19, 2015

“The 2016 Atlantic Hurricane Season Might Be the Strongest in Years”—headline, CBSNews, Aug. 11, 2016

“NOAA: U.S. Completes Record 11 Straight Years Without Major Hurricane Strike”—headline, CNSNews, Oct. 24, 2016

Thanks James Taranto...

Comment Nothing compared to major asteroid hit (Score 1) 502

In fact, humanity is almost certain to not survive even a largish asteroid hit unscathed. Billions could die in the immediate aftermath and most of the rest probably die in the long-term due to starvation.

It's a real possibility that cannot be ignored.

We should be spending our trillions of dollars to prevent that from happening! The argument is the same "Bad things might happen--or will certainly happen if other things happen first--so we should *do* *something* *about* *it*".

Some of us agree with the notion that pollution is bad, that humans have negatively affected the environment, and that human activities are probably (or even almost certainly) affecting the climate with AGW.

But we're still branded as "deniers" becuase we take strong issue with is the proposed "solutions". Few of which are science-based and almost all of which are based not on environmentalism but communism--wealth redistribution and punishment of the West. The elites preach about reducing carbon footprints while they drive a fleet of SUVs 200 yards to get from their hotel to their film festival, after arriving there in their private jets dumping untold tons of carbon into the atmosphere, having left their mansions that consume more resources than 20 of normal citizens' homes. But the rest of us need to live in caves and eat dirt, while they spend trillions. They want the population of the earth to be 500,000 people, assuming that they and theirs constitute the chosen half-million and the rest of us need to be gone.

Most of AGW "solutions" is that they are not science based, e.g. seeking to pump CO2 into subsea sequestration, but simply socialist wealth redistribution efforts, as clearly evidenced by the public statements of any number of high-profile AGW climateers...

Ottmar Edenhofer: "One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole...We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy...the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated."

Christiana Figueres: "This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution...This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.

Naomi Klein: "What if global warming isn’t only a crisis...What if it's the best chance we’re ever going to get to build a better world?"

Comment Are those hipsters on foodstamps? Could be... (Score 3, Interesting) 131

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/1...

In the John Waters-esque sector of northwest Baltimore — equal parts kitschy, sketchy, artsy and weird — Gerry Mak and Sarah Magida sauntered through a small ethnic market stocked with Japanese eggplant, mint chutney and fresh turmeric. After gathering ingredients for that evening’s dinner, they walked to the cash register and awaited their moments of truth.

“I have $80 bucks left!” Magida said. “I’m so happy!”

“I have $12,” Mak said with a frown.

The two friends weren’t tabulating the cash in their wallets but what remained of the monthly allotment on their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program debit cards, the official new term for what are still known colloquially as food stamps.

Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding — and her usual gigs — to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she’s used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away.

“I’m eating better than I ever have before,” she told me. “Even with food stamps, it’s not like I’m living large, but it helps.”

Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes.

Comment Re:yeah right. (Score 1) 364

I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on Earth.

Obama's first inauguration speech...messiah much?

Comment Not as far as the planet or nature are concerned (Score 1) 364

The Earth will keep right on zooming around the sun, new life forms will evolve and populate the planet. Or not. Pretty much the same as it has been for the last 2B years.

Sure, it's bad for humans and other flora and fauna that are contemporaneous with humans. The world kept on going after the Great Oxygenation Event caused the first mass extinction 2.3 billion years ago. It kept on going through 20 or so mass extinction events [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event]. It'll go on after humans.

Comment Again? Same alarmist story every year... (Score 1) 364

“2006: Expect Another Big Hurricane Year Says NOAA”—headline, MongaBay .com, May 22, 2006
“NOAA Predicts Above Normal 2007 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration press release, May 23, 2007
“NOAA Increases Expectancy for Above-Normal 2008 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, gCaptain .com, Aug. 7, 2008
“Forecasters: 2009 to Bring ‘Above Average’ Hurricane Season”—headline, CNN, Dec. 10, 2008
“NOAA: 2010 Hurricane Season May Set Records”—headline, Herald-Tribune (Sarasota, Fla.), May 28, 2010
“NOAA Predicts Increased Storm Activity in 2011 Hurricane Season”—headline, BDO Consulting press release, Aug. 18, 2011
“2012 Hurricane Forecast Update: More Storms Expected”—headline, LiveScience, Aug. 9, 2012
“NOAA Predicts Active 2013 Atlantic Hurricane Season”—headline, NOAApress release, May 23, 2013
“A Space-Based View of 2015’s ‘Hyperactive’ Hurricane Season”—headline, CityLab .com, June 19, 2015
“The 2016 Atlantic Hurricane Season Might Be the Strongest in Years”—headline, CBSNews, Aug. 11, 2016

“NOAA: U.S. Completes Record 11 Straight Years Without Major Hurricane Strike”—headline, CNSNews, Oct. 24, 2016

Thanks James Taranto's WSJ "Best of the Web" column...

Yeah, sure the original may not just be about US hurricanes, but the point is still the same.

To mix parables, crying wolf about the sky falling is a quick way to get people to ignore actual serious issues.

Comment Reading the law, it seems straightforward to undo (Score 1) 338

Even if subsection (a) does not contain a provision for reinstating formerly withdrawn lands for leasing...

1341. Reservation of lands and rights
(a) Withdrawal of unleased lands by President: The President of the United States may, from time to
time, withdraw from disposition any of the unleased lands of the outer Continental Shelf.

Obama is hanging his hat on the fact that there is no counterpart for reinstatement (i.e., it doesn't say "withdraw or reinstate").

However, subsection (d) provides a nice easy workaround:

(d) National defense areas; suspension of operations; extension of leases : The United States
reserves and retains the right to designate by and through the Secretary of Defense, with the approval of the
President, as areas restricted from exploration and operation that part of the outer Continental Shelf needed
for national defense; and so long as such designation remains in effect no exploration or operations may be
conducted on any part of the surface of such area except with the concurrence of the Secretary of Defense;

So SecDef and Trump could just designate the lands Obama withheld from disposition as "national defense area" then get the concurrence of the SecDef to allow operations.

Comment If they could wrap wealth redistribution into it, (Score 1, Informative) 338

For me, the main problem with the church of AGW is not that the science is questionable, although there is always a responsibility to be rationally skeptical of any claims, but that the solutions are not scientific. Rather, the "solutions" are always cached in socialist propaganda. It has stopped being about the environment, stopping pollution, providing clean energy, etc. It is generally far more of a watermelon (green on the outside, red on the inside)--control of money, punishing the wealthy, redistribution of wealth. Without a doubt there are many above-board climatologists and environmentalists for whom the science is key, and finding real solutions (e.g., fusion power) are the most important thing. But they have let their science be co-opted for political purposes.

Ottmar Edenhofer, a co-chair of the IPCC : “The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month [back in 2010 actually] is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.”

"I’m Camille Risler. I’m from France but I’m living in Thailand. I’m working for a feminist network that is called Asia Pacific Forum on Women, Law and Development and I’m working for the Climate Justice Program...So what we want to highlight here is that Climate Change is a clear symptom of an unequal and unjust world...So if we are to address the Climate crisis we need to challenge the structural causes of the crisis which lies on unequal distribution of wealth, of carbon, and of power. Whether it’s political power, economic power, or even military power."

Christiana Figueres, who serves as the Executive Secretary of the UN’s Framework Convention on Climate Change: “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.”

Comment Exactly! How could she not manage? (Score 1) 1069

How could she not manage to beat Trump? Trump!?

She managed to lose to the most loathsome, odious person to ever run for the office. What's that say about her?

Not much we didn't already know, she (along with Kerry, Biden...) was after all duped into voting for the Bush wars by an idiot President who couldn't walk and chew gum a the same time.

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