heh, probably the same, I don't know of any other kbonin's at SSI, I was there from late gold box to shortly before the big sell out. I spent most of the next decade in games (EA, Bethesda, some startups) before moving to enterprise security, came to learn FAR more than I wished about the messes at Microsoft. From having to reverse engineer Word to figure out just how it could scroll the screen faster than the public APIs do (pre GDI, Word was using a hack of outputting to a printer driver with certain flag settings to get to screen,) to pretty much every subsequent generation, right through Azure today. Microsoft is an amazingly predatory corporation. The previous generation of "nobody ever got fired for choosing IBM" has just moved to "Microsoft". Intelligent at capturing as much revenue as possible, but quite predatory. Between their loss of mobile and the crashing importance of the desktop, I'm looking forward to them collapsing. Until then I have to keep supporting Azure, but even the most obtuse PHB will eventually get upset at the huge and increasing percentage of revenue Microsoft siphons off your product on Azure vs. AWS.