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Comment Re: Fake News? (Score 1) 788

Old people have always been in power. Take a look at all the presidents, congresspeople, generals, CEO's, and other leaders over time. All old, all of the time.

Take a look at the people who put the elected ones there. They aren't shouting "get off my lawn!". Until now.

It has nothing to do with size. Leadership skills generally take decades to develop, so leaders are always in the 45-65 age range

You should probably actually open a history book before making that absurd claim.

Apart from everyone in political power being old you mean?

Again, a very large group of people put them in political power. They respond to that large group of people in order to retain power.

Comment Re: Fake News? (Score 1) 788

Old people have always complained about young people. Nothing is new here.

The difference here is the old people actually have the political power to do something about it.

Move back a few generations. The "old" generation had children, forming the "middle" generation. Time passes, and the "middle" generation takes political an economic power because it is larger than the "old" one. The "middle" generation has children. The "Old people" complain about this new generation. But they lack the political and economic power to really fuck them over. Because the "middle" generation outnumbers the "old" generation.

Comment Re:"self investigate" == alt.right (Score 1) 788

How about the little girl taped to a table?

Boy, there's a ton of pedophiles in the world!!....or maybe taping someone up is a pretty common prank.

Some of the things, like #chickenlover or cheese pizza = CP are from established slang definitions that can be found on sites like urban dictionary which long predate any of this.

And until you actually have evidence of pedophilia, it's idiotic to not use their "common" definition.

But I find this argument ironic when we talk about dog whistle politics so much.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes it isn't.

And yes, I specifically decided to use that object, because it's a dogwhistle. Do you notice how little careful parsing and "what he really meant was...." was required to notice it?

Comment Re:Better be ready to be beat up when layed off wo (Score 1) 537

Bare survival is also not politically stable. Expenses can suddenly pop up, resulting in the same "not peacefully starve to death" problem. For example, if someone gets sick, they're going to have to buy medicine. That's not in "Clothes, 3 hot meals and a bed".

Even if we also manage to get through universal healthcare there still will be expenses beyond survival, and with no possibility of employment there is no way to pay those expenses in your system.

Which means paying for a certain amount of "comfortable life", which will occasionally be redirected to those expenses.

Comment Re:"self investigate" == alt.right (Score 3, Insightful) 788

So which of the people reporting on the weird Podesta email about the "pizza-related map" the realtor found and offered to return to Podesta believe the email doesn't exist?

The "fake" here is:

  • The claim that there is only one possible meaning of an email between two people who know each other well. That two such people have zero "inside jokes" or other broader context to the things they say to each other in private.
  • That emails between such people always use perfect grammar, so any disparity between perfect grammar and what is in the email is an indication of a global conspiracy.

Which of the people who found the jimmycommet Instagram (now only available as archives...) believed the photos weren't creepy?

The fake here is the "creepy" was created by the conspiracy: The pictures of children enjoying pizza are creepy because of the pedophilia claims. ...Unless you want to claim Chuck-E-Cheese's entire marketing for the past several decades is creepy.

Which of the people who saw the photo they tagged as #chickenlovers believes they didn't see that?

And which of the people who saw they photo actually have any relevant information about said photo?

This entire "scandal" is an updated version of the McMartin preschool hysteria.

Comment Re: Fake News? (Score 4, Insightful) 788

Furthermore, I don't think we've ever a generation that was so hated by their parents, nor one that had to face roadblocks being placed in at every step of the way decades in advance.

Grandparents, not parents.

Millennials are large enough to challenge the political power of the Baby Boomers. The Boomers, having utterly dominated politics and been the focus of the vast majority of marketing for their entire lives, are not taking this transition well.

Normally each subsequent generation is larger than the previous, so the power transition is more gradual and less shocking to those being replaced. For example, GenX's political and social beliefs are between the Boomers and Millennials. But GenX is too small to displace the Boomers so the Boomers retained power.

The big gulf between the generation losing power and the generation gaining power has created a lot of acrimony, especially because the side losing power can't do anything about it. Their loss of power is as inevitable as death, mostly because death is the primary cause of it. So they rage, lash out, and abuse while they still can. But soon they won't have the influence to do so. And they know it.

Comment Re: Fake News? (Score 1) 788

You must have missed the Bush years when the Dems did much the same.

Could you cite anything the Democrats alone blocked during W's term? The big efforts that got stopped, like ending Social Security and Harriet Miers nomination, were opposed by some Republicans in Congress too. Other things were only blocked temporarily, and events like the "Gang of 14" unblocked them.

One of the problems in our two party system is one party has a spine, the other doesn't.

Comment Re:Better be ready to be beat up when layed off wo (Score 5, Insightful) 537

Basic Income is a horrible idea, that is doomed for all the reasons people don't want to think about.

People do not peacefully starve to death.

If we're going to continue to tie "not starving to death" to employment, we're going to need to do something when employment is no longer possible.

Basic income is one way of dealing with that. Feel free to propose a better one.

Comment Re:"Middle class" (Score 1) 468

I'll chalk this up as a poor interpretation of what constitutes 'middle class.' Most of the jobs automation would impact might creep into the low end of that range, but not very many.

The vast majority of software development jobs are making software that fundamentally does CRUD operations at the behest some business logic.

We've already "automated" the CRUD part in the form of libraries that make that trivial. A general-purpose AI could handle the business logic.

Or is "software developer" not supposed to be 'middle class' anymore?

Comment Re:huh (Score 2) 468

if everyone suddenly had a Star Trek replicator, do you think the entire world economy would grind to a sudden halt? No, it wouldn't.

It would not grind to a halt because............?

What jobs do you think can not be automated? And since those currently pay better than the more "mundane" jobs, why isn't everyone already doing them?

Comment They don't have to completely program themselves (Score 1) 468

Currently, I'm the only person writing any code for my project.

20 years ago when I started my career, this project would take around 20-30 people to code. I'm not 20-30x better than they are. Instead, a whole lot of what I need is "automated". I don't have to write a network stack. I don't have to write a server or client. I don't have to serialize/deserialize the messages between the services. I don't have to write the deployment, monitoring and automatic recovery software. I don't have to write most of the testing code. And so on.

It's going to continue to get easier. So about the time I'm old enough to think about retirement, I'll probably be doing the work of 50-70 1990s-era programmers. If I'm still needed.

A near drag-and-drop "programming" interface for a typical business CRUD application would not be all that hard to do today, except for handling all the day-to-day edge cases. Add in a general-purpose AI, and suddenly you can handle those edge cases too.

And then the "programming" will be done by a relatively unskilled business analyst, except for the very, very, very few computer scientists working with AIs to produce the next version of the framework.

Comment Re:Average income down, fewer people working (Score 1) 533

Arguing about long-term economic trends like incomes going up or down requires a long-term context

Except you're the one who switched to a long-term context when your previous argument wasn't going so well. TFA is talking about a month-to-month report. That's inherently a short-term context.

How much inflation do you suppose happened--or was even measured--between October and November?

November's numbers aren't out out. Here's September 2016 to October 2016. While that's CPI and not a percentage, you'll note it is going up, not down. So a drop in wages would mean a reduction in purchasing power.....if that chart was the same months. We'll be able to make a new chart in a week or so.

For that matter, with holiday sales, wouldn't inflation over a few weeks be negative, if you picked the right weeks?

Consumer goods are only a part of the CPI "basket". There's lots of other things that also fluctuate wildly - food, gasoline, whatever you use for heating, and so on.

It's unreasonable to assume an economics discussion about the general state of the US economy is a short-term discussion

When the story is about the change between October and November, it's inherently a short-term discussion.

If the discussion were meant to be in a one-month total context, then OP and GP are just morons [...] have some sort of pathological mental illness and exhibit defense mechanisms that look an awful lot like, but are distinct from, schizophrenia. wrote the grandparent post.

Comment Re: Surprised (Score 1) 533

The "official state statistics" are actually the bullshit here. There's lots of arcane rules about who can get unemployment benefits and who can stay on them, as well as wildly different policies in each state. As a result, "number of people receiving unemployment checks" has very little to do with the number of people unemployed.

And remember, unemployed people have plenty of time to fill out government surveys.

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