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A strange incident happened today. I got unfriended by bethanie because she thinks that I think that I don't like her. Fair enough... That is probably a good reason, and I won't hold a grudge against her for that.

I have noticed in other journals that since the LadyGuardian incident some people got an identity crisis (examples here and here, and there must be others)

I will not ask you what you don't like about me as was done in the above examples. I don't care, because there must be aspects of me that you don't like and that is pretty normal. So, right now, right here... I ask you *why* you think that *I* don't like *you*. I won't hold a grudge against anyone for thinking that. You can also ask me to unfriend you and do the same to me. Relations change as a part of life, and I'll accept it. (Also note that online friendships fade faster than offline ones)

As a little bonus: I acquired some new fans in the recent months. Normally, I go on a friending spree on Christmas to show my Goodwill. I will friend now all of you (except 5amTheButcher and eugene ts wrong because they are impersonators). More than a month early... Of course you are also invited to participate. It's going to be quite hard for you guys because I actually don't know you at all....

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  • then you're my buddy. But if you choose ice cream over pie, then we have problems. ;)
    • *with* my pie. with!

      Seriously, pie without ice cream is like french fries without mayonaise.
      • i usually have my fries with honey.
        • Pie, fries, and honey...

          And y'all thought I could stay away? (No, really, it was setzman who I followed in here -- blame him. Or helio.)

          Shark, I think that you dislike me because everytime I try to be sweet, helpful, encouraging, or *anything*, you brush me off and act fairly resentful. I feel like I've spent *months* trying to bolster your confidence and really give you some *useful* information, based on my own experience. Now, granted, this info probably is utterly useless and completely worthless -- y
          • Shark, I think that you dislike me because everytime I try to be sweet, helpful, encouraging, or *anything*, you brush me off and act fairly resentful.

            Jorg is just not ready to listen to any of our advice. He wants to wallow in self-pity for a while longer. That is cool by me, I've been there, done that, it just takes time to get over it...
          • Look bethanie, I think arb got it right in the first place. Second, you seem to fail to understand that we are completely different beings. You experiences don't apply to me, even though you'd like to think that. Heck, you're female! Being female is a de-facto advantage in the dating-scene. It is just that way: you're the 'prey' (bad choice of words, but right now my vocabulary-module seems to be down), and only on rare events women actually take action.

            You see, how could you understand a nearly 30-

            • Man did you get my attention with this comment in a BIG way.

              1)All of us are different "beings". That is what makes life so interesting.

              2)I'm not the only one that values the opinion and experiences of the opposite sex. Hearing about experiences that don't "apply" to us is a great way to see what we are up against. Ya know, get the inside scoop.

              3)Don't know which planet you are on, but on mine the preditor is the one that determines most of the chase. IF the perdetors don't find one worthy prey, then

              • Sounds like you've created a pretty heavy duty armor. NOBODY is getting thru without your help or approval.

                Yes, and spirit00 just needed one smile to get through it... That's pretty heavy duty. NOT!

                I don't know you. I don't pretend to.

                That can be easily changed. My soul is buried in these journals. They reflect me, they *are* me. You only need to know how to read. Here is a compilation of my best entries. Most of them are on relations, only one isn't, but I added it because I think it is my

              • Besides, have you actually shown the "true you"? Sounds like you've created a pretty heavy duty armor. NOBODY is getting through without your help or approval.

                That's a bit harsh. We can never know how much of a person's online persona is for real. I can't say for sure about Jorg, but I can tell you what I know about jawtheshark: He's a really sweet guy who cares a lot about his family, drinks a bit, and has had problems finding a girlfriend in the past. He found somebody who he loved, and who loved hi
                • Not wanting to sound sappy... you made me cry... Honestly... you have summarized what I am better than anyone could.

                  Thank you Some Woman... Consider that blue dot, a dark blue one...

                • things going thru my mind right now:

                  1)no i wasn't! *stomp off and pout*

                  2)ok, maybe a little, but he asked for it

                  3)fine. i was a lot harsh and i'm sorry

                  4)take a moment and figure out which of the 3 it really is. i need to be honest and true to my opinion no matter what. above all, relpy. don't slink off to some dark corner and brood.

                  as i stated in my comment, i don't know Jts. i'm am 100% sure of that. he was kind enough to put up links to past JEs for me to read so i could get a better idea

                  • raw nerves get touched without the perpetrator knowing or intending to touch/stomp on them.

                    Very true.

                    btw, i was wondering what the shift key had to do with anything.

                    It's that little button you push to get lower case letters when you have the caps lock on. :)
    • dude...

      enough is enough.

      Read my journal...and hear the lamentation of the women.
    • Oh, I'm going to make foes today. I neither like pie nor ice cream. Well, not to the point of arguing. Last time I had pie was... uhm... I can't remember, and icecream must be ages ago.

      I just don't like stuff that tastes too sweet...

      • Do you at least like chocolate? I'd really hate to have to foe you if you don't.
        • Chocolate? Look my ex-girlfriend loved chocolate, and I conquered her heart by sending her Belgian pralines. So, my feelings related to chocolate are far from nice. She liked chocolate, it reminds me of her, so I just can't love chocolate.

          I am not too fond of chocolate, though recently I have stocked up bars of chocolate in the drawer of my work desk... just for when I become hungry.

          Apart from that, I never eat chocolate and end up giving chocolate (from easter/christmas/whater) to my sister or mom.

    • Of course I like Pi. What did you think I like? e? Phi? H-bar?
    • i think i'm going to have to say brownies. i made some of those ghirardelli double chocolate brownies the other day, and they were tasty. it shouldn't even be legal. ice cream does make them better. you can put it other with desserts more readily than pie.

      i also like cheesecake a lot. does that count as pie even though it isn't in the name? it looks like pie.
      • OMG. That sounds soooo good! Did you have hotfuge too? I can forgive the cheescake thing since the brownies were ghirardelli. So how would a fairy earn, accume, or otherwise get some of those brownies?
        • the easiest way is probably just to go to the nearest sam's club/bj's/cost whatever-it's-called-out-west and buy yourself a box of the mix. it comes in a package with four batches of mix. just add a little water and vegetable oil and bake it up.

          the hard way would be to make the trip out to ohio to visit me and the wife. we'd be willing to share.

          i find that ben and jerry's requires no hot fudge, but with a more "plain" ice cream it probably would be a nice addition.

          how can you not like cheesecake? it'
          • ohio

            Ohio!!! What is with Ohio! Why the fuck are so many geeks from Ohio? I hate Ohio... and for a reason...

            • probably it's just that there are some big cities here. a lot of large businesses have headquarters in the columbus area. that and if fucking rules.

              as long as you aren't a bigot or anything. ;)
          • hmm. i was just at sam's today. i didn't look in the brownie section this time. i do remember seeing the mix there a few months back. i figured it would be gone by now. i'll have to check again.

            if i don't find any, this fairy may be making her first trip to ohio ;^)

          • Sorry about the previous comment. I was big-time wasted and this was some kind of gut-reaction. (spirit00 is from Ohio) I have nothing against Ohio and I actually liked it when I was there. It looks a bit like here you know...

            Anyways: it still seems that there are a disproportional amount of people from Ohio that are into journalling.

            Sorry again, I shouldn't post drunk (and being ennerved from the car didn't help)

    • As long as I like pie?! I don't know about being friended or unfriended based on food. That really doesn't work for picky eaters like myself. This fairy can't go around eating just any ol' thing. Hopefully this fairy is still ok. I did, after all, say I'd eat some pie just for you. ;)
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    • Hey, I know you're happy... I wish you all to be happy. I'm not happy, but that's just me. I just don't want it rubbed in my face every second day. (And you don't...)
  • Christ on a cracker, why would anyone sit down and analyze the slashdot zoo system. I clicky clicky and put the green dot next to people I like to read. If you annoy the piss out of me, I'll foe you. My foes go to -7, I don't see them. I only have one, and that's just because he was my very first freak.

    And I'm entirely too prolific for anyone with JE notification messages on to keep me friended unless they like at least a few things that I write or are just love content.
    • why would anyone sit down and analyze the slashdot zoo system.

      If I knew I'd tell you... I'm actually a bit like you. When I like what people write it's the green dot, though I rarely foe people. I prefer the "peacefully ignore" strategy.
      I have some freaks, never bothered to foe them. Let them don't like me, I won't go as "low" as they do ;-) And since I don't use modifiers, fans and freaks alike get my attention.

    • I used to foe like that, but now I use it for people who are blatantly wrong yet get modded up. I have it +1 them, so I can get off a quick "you fucknut, stop spreading stupid urban legends about Microsoft" and link to a debunking site (as anti-MS FUD is generally something that pisses me off).

      Kinda my way of doing quality control on Slashdot. :-p
      • You make Richard Stallman and Eric S. Raymond cry, you meanie!
        • Aww, that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day! ;-)

          In all seriousness, though, I'd say people like RMS do more harm to OSS than they do good. I like OSS - I use a lot of it, and contribute where I can. I just don't like zealotry and unrealistic worldviews. :-)
  • I guess she thinks I don't like her JEs or any of her comments either, but oh well...
  • I know you love me. I don't like too sweet things either.
  • Has the circle grown too big? Is there a schism in the near future? What happened to Surak? Answers to all these questions and more onthe next episode of Soap.
    • On the next episode of Soap! Hah. Ok, now that's a classic my ULC brother.

      SamtheButcher needs to put that in his quotes file. It's just too perfect.
    • LOL....

      I agree... It's turning into a big soap. Oh, and one question is actually very interesting: "has the circle grown too big". My answer is "yes". Most probably we will see it fractioning soon, probably one around bethanie and one around FortKnox with the occasional bridges.

      I think that many people think that I'm mad at bethanie for unfriending me. I'm not, I just found it an odd *reason*.

  • How the hell could you possibly dislike me? I know you love me. This JE is a waste of my time. ;-)
    • I always felt "dubious" about you dave.... ;-) *drumroll* (lame joke, mod down as -1, Unfunny)
      • You only make those bad jokes because you hate me, you bastard!
        • Quite to the contrary: I love your nick. I don't know why you chose it, nor what the deeper meaning is behind it, but it is insanely cool.

          Perhaps I'm just jealous of your nick! Yeah! That must be it! ;-)

          • I'm afraid the story of my nick is not that exciting, but thanks. The story is here [slashdot.org] if you want to read it. You'll probably think it's less cool, though. I also use "dubious" or "dubiousdave" for online gaming, so if you see that name somewhere else, it may be me, unless it's an asshole, then it must be someone else. :-)
            • It still sounds cool... It is not as if *my* nick has such a cool story either. We end up with what we chose, and I'll stick to jawtheshark. I can assure you that any jawtheshark you meet is me, even if he is an asshole... ;-)
  • Bethanie unfriended me because I'm a bitch. Woohoo!

    I posted the following in her first journal entry on the new folksies, which caused her to delete the entry and write the new one:

    "I have not been able to moderate in 2 years, but perhaps I could help by introducing bluefairee to the shift key." Yes, it was blunt and a might ruder than I normally behave, but that's what I said and deleting the entry doesn't make it go away.

    Just like when somebody posts a journal entry that they later regret and delete.
    • Anyway, the answer is that you love me. Or at least you should. Or at least do a good job of acting like it...

      I, for one, welcome our even-tempered overlord. (Overlady?) OK?
    • Wrong again.

      I unfriended you because you *always* seem irritated by my posts, even when I'm just trying to be playful. This last week has just been a catalyst to take action on stuff that I've been thinking about doing for a long time, but I really didn't want to hurt feelings. So the unfriending was just because it was *time*, dammit -- not a result of your comment.

      That shift key comment wasn't bitchy enough to make me delete the entry -- otherwise it would have been deleted a lot sooner. No, it was whe
      • I unfriended you because you *always* seem irritated by my posts

        It actually has very little to do with you. I'm irritated by everything. Just ask the people who have to deal with me in real life. They just wish they could get rid of me from 1000 miles away. When I grow up, I'm going to be that crabby woman who sits in her rocker grumbling about the deteriorating state of the neighborhood. Actually, I'm going to get a head start and go to the furniture store right now.
    • deleting the entry doesn't make it go away.

      Well, it does go away. Comments in a deleted JE vanish into the aether with no way for other users to stumble upon it... ;-)

      Of course, deleting the JE doesn't unsay what was said, it just makes it harder for those who haven't already read it, read it.
    • Apparently you hit the same "bethanie-unfriend-criteria" as I did. Welcome to the club :-)

      Written things can be undone. Haven't you read 1984? ;-) I actually try never to delete journal entries. Last time I did, was because I forgot to turn off comments and I absolutely didn't want comments. So I deleted it, and re-created it with comments disabled. Perhaps in the early days I removed a JE. I don't really recall.

      So you haven't been able to moderate for that long too? I though I was the only one!

      • (My mom is a Chemistry Major, and she says she knows how to make LSD but she refuses to tell me! Grrrr!)
        It isn't hard, and you can find instructions on the internet. However, the ingredients are strictly controlled and purchases are monitored.
      • Are you kidding? I know how to make so many illicit drugs and chemical weapons. I've actually had presentations in my chemistry classes on the production of chemical and biochemical weapons and drugs- the reactions, mechanisms, and everything.

        Really though, you shouldn't buy the stuff on the street. Drug dealers these days have a severe lack of experimental technique. I'm just saying- if I ran a meth lab, it would be good, quality product.
        • I know how to make so many illicit drugs and chemical weapons.

          I have absolutely no doubt about that. I mean, they must teach that somewhere, and let's say that "Chemistrty" actually seems like an obvious place to learn this stuff. My moms knowlegde about this stuff is probably a bit outdated. After all, back in the day they didn't have these fancy drugs like XTC. Besides, she wasn't in the organic side of Chemisty. If I recall correctly she did christallography or something as her Masters Thesis.

    • Or is it three. I think it was my Bethanie is like Emininem post here [slashdot.org] I feel like I'm in some cool little club now.
  • Well, if I had to pick a reason, I would assume that it's my views, temperment & word choices: all the stuff that makes me, me.

    However, I won't pick a reason because I don't think that you don't like me. We get along well enough for my purposes, as far as I can tell.

    Regarding friending & foeing, I've cleared out my friends list of all the people who I don't recognize anymore & don't write journal entries. There are some people still there, but they tend to be the exception because they are my
    • We get along well enough for my purposes, as far as I can tell.

      Exactly! That is how I feel about most people around here. Even those that have completely different worldviews than I have.

      Clearing out the list is a good thing because then you won't have those green-red dots anymore. I find the foes of friends dots so distracting.

      Hehehe... Well, I like them. Or better said: I see it at once if someone changed their relation. I actually find the friend-friends friend-foe pills more distracting.

  • The only reason I don't befriend so many people these days is because I'm at the 400-mark (thanks to subscription raising the bar from 200), so I'd have to unfriend someone else first. As a rule, I only do that to people who have either abandoned their /. journals, have not been on /. for several months, or have changed their tone enough that I no longer have a reason to read their journal.

    The foe list is only for people whose writing are likely to make my blood pressure soar, and whom I can't ignore by ju
    • Well, MT, you said that a hell of a lot better than I would have.

      I actually refrained from posting a rant which contained language that would make a sailor blush about just such a thing.

      If you want to friend me, friend me. If you're think I need to be friended, don't bother. I may be a cyclical depressive, but unless you manage to catch me when I'm really, really down I won't care about something as trivial as a blue dot next to your name on a website. Unless you actually want to read my tripe, don't b
      • Hopefully this LG shockwave goes away soon, it's making some of the "circle" seem like a bunch of angst-filled 12 year olds catfighting(guys and girls) and bitching about their lack of social skills.

        That was said in a great way! It will go away soon, I'm sure... I think it just made people think a bit about what slashdot it: just a place to rant your hearts out...

    • Wow, you friended a *lot* of people. I'm subscribed and I don't even have hit the non-subscription cap.

      Having someone take you off their /. friends list is not the cue for a hissy-fit.

      Uhm, I didn't have a "hissy-fit". What struck me most is the reason: I unfriended you because I think you don't like me. Doesn't that feel somehow, as if someone is projecting their thoughts on you? It is a bit like "look I think that you don't like me that's why we can't be friends", instead of saying "JTS, everyt

      • Uhm, I didn't have a "hissy-fit". What struck me most is the reason: I unfriended you because I think you don't like me. Doesn't that feel somehow, as if someone is projecting their thoughts on you? It is a bit like "look I think that you don't like me that's why we can't be friends", instead of saying "JTS, everytime I give you advice you send me away with a pissy comment, I don't appreciate that and that is why I unfriended you". That is way more honest than the original reason. It's a case of taking resp
        • the relationship dots should reflect the value you place on another user's writing, not the person themselves.

          I am going to agree with you, because you are right. Next time, I'll just say to myself "your writing sucks, dude, another fan gone!" ;-)

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