American companies aren't "overcharging" for their tokens. They are still offering them at an incredible discount, compared to the actual infrastructure and compute cost - a $200/mo OpenAI subscription can let you burn through about $14,000 of token value.

American companies are still deep in the "get them addicted, then increase the price" phase. If you think the recent token price apocalypse is bad, wait until OpenAI and Anthropic's loans come due shortly...

China, as usual, appears to be slightly smarter and has seen the writing on the wall.

By the way, incredible to see someone cry about Chinese companies "stealing" and "copying", given how American models were all trained.

"Companies turn to cheaper, better products with the functionality they want, US lawmakers outraged".

Seriously, this is getting embarrassing now. Can't buy Chinese routers, can't buy a Chinese EV, now can't use a Chinese LLM? The rest of the world is getting on with things while America will become more of a backwater than it is already, and they will wonder why...

Distillation Attack? What? That's some deliberately chosen language. Can the fact that companies like Anthropic and OpenAi scraped up an entire internet's worth of private and copyrighted data to build their own models, be called a "Training Attack"?

Ask the web administrators who have to deal with the constant barrage of AI scraper bots, they would surely agree.

If there's any worthwhile direction in AI, it's creating smaller, more efficient models. Distillation is the only path forward.

It's going to be hilarious seeing the situation in the US in ten years time, it's going to look like Cuba, a bunch of people trying to keep ancient vintage gas-guzzling cars running, with no manufacturing industry to make new ones, and the rest of the world having moved on. And they would have done it to themselves! ^_^

Jeanine Wright, co-founder of Inception Point, rejects the debate altogether: "The people still talking about slop are still making 6-7 jokes," she said. "It's still yesterday's conversation."

That sounds like someone profiting off slop might say. Reminding people that people hate AI slop always angers the people who generate slop.

Imagine if we punished social media companies for the harm they are responsible for, rather than punishing kids for wanting to communicate with their friends and the world.

I used Duolingo for a year, learning German. I also learned that that vocal matching game you can do repeatedly and that ramps up and up to high scores - you can do it repeatedly and get very, very good at it and get to the top of the tables fairly consistently. I wasn't cheating, I was just getting really fast at one specific exercise. It also meant I gave up on everything else, all the standard grammar lessons etc. and stopped learning anything much useful.

I then learned that it's cheaper and more effective than the increasingly enshittified Duolingo just to borrow novels in German from the library and read them with a translation dictionary.

...should have spent more time at the practice range.

With a 5x productivity boost, I hope you're enjoying the 5x pay rise your employer must obviously be giving you, as a reward for the 5x more profit you're generating for them! Good on you!

Non-AI stocks are now just the "old economy"? Maybe we should, maybe, wait until any AI company at all has actually made a cent of profit before we call them the "new economy" and relegate the companies who make real money and things the "old economy".

There appears to be deep confusion, across the public in general (and dare I say the managerial class in particular) about what large language models actually *do*. Nobody with any understanding of what these things actually are, how they would, would imagine getting one to generate a password would be a smart idea. Somehow (marketing? hype?) people have been convinced these are intelligent, do-anything machines, and I have no idea how we break that impression.

Of course, American car makers would never be subject to this kind of government intervention, investment or market distortion, nor car dealers playing with numbers or being dishonest. Clearly this is just a Communist Chinese thing.

And how many of those 800 million a week (lol lmfao) are paying? Like, 12 or 13 maybe?

Excellent framing here from the adware/private data collecting industry; the European law in no way mandates banners. The law mandates requiring consent for data collection, which is entirely reasonable. If you don't collect and transmit identifying/private data, you don't need to put a banner on your website. The whole banner thing has been malicious compliance from day one from the ad industry.

It's always very surprising to me, that when companies insist their workers can be replaced with AI - it never seems to be senior management roles they replace. Why can't the CEO be replaced by a chat bot? After all, CEOs don't do much but churn out bland boilerplate corporate text, they never deviate from the mean or do anything particularly surprising, they just copy what every other silicon valley CEO is doing that month - the human role seems completely redundant when you could so easily ask a LLM to do the job.