So what? My point is that we would have a vast amount of job creation anyway. In fact, it might have been worse due to NASA misdirection of so much of US productivity during that time.
Undoubtedly. After all the population of US almost doubled during this period. Many new jobs would have been created. Small grammatical (Not! syntax) point: facts and "might have been"s don't mix well, given that facts occurred (factum est Not! data, which derives from datum, that which is given) and "might have been"s didn't. When parsing your sentence my bio-computer, stated simply "does not compute". I know it's just an expression, people say "in fact, it might have been X" all the time, but really such is rather illogical, there simply is nothing subjunctive about facts. Alas we will never know the answer to this.
This is why I quoted the problem section in question. The computer industry and fiberglass insulation don't need "a myriad of factors happening to fall into place at the right time in the right way". There are a variety of ways to get a computer industry and fiberglass insulation. There's plenty of room for error.
Could you name me a computer industry? I only know of one, it happens to span the world and several of the prominent corporations in the computer industry were founded in the wake of the Apollo Space program. I guess you might be referring to something like the japanese computer industry vs. the american computer industry, or do you mean that something like the Dell computer industry vs. the Hewlett-Packard computer industry? or microcomputer industry vs. mainframe computer industry? really not sure what you are referring to. Comparing the computer industry with fiberglass insulation is well kind of strange, they are both things, in a very broad sense, but such a comparison is worse than apples vs oranges, at least you can eat both of those. Is there anything that computer industries ((pl.) and "fiberglass insulation"';s (note: there is no plural form of insulation, nor fiberglass) have particularly in common which lends one to make such a comparison? My guess is that fiberglass refers to a specific thing with a specific composition, but I could be wrong, can you really make fiberglass out of totally different materials? I always thought of fiberglass insulation as a thing, in fact I think that thing has a name, "fiberglass insulation". I could be wrong, but if I'm not, would you care to elaborate on the different ways to a get a generic computer industry, or some alternative way to make insulation out of fiberglass, or make fiberglass differently? You may think I am being pedantic but I really have no idea what you mean when you say,"There are a variety of ways to get a computer industry and fiberglass insulation".
So again there is one concrete thing in the world named "fiberglass insulation", and there is another concrete thing in the world which we call "the computer industry", both of which were developed according to the same contingency I have described previously. If you could give me one example of multiple computer industries, or one example of fiberglass insulation, which somehow is and is not fiberglass insulation, I might cede your point. But I have a sneaky suspicion that you can't, based primarily on the fact that there is no plural usage of computer industries( which are not simply names for specific countries and their computer industry history, or specific names of corporations or names identifying different types of computers) or fiberglass insulations/fiberglasses insulation in the english language, nor any other indo-european languages. Try it yourself: come up with a sentence where you say "computer industries", or "fiberglass insulations/fiberglasses insulation", I leave it as an exercise for you. Perhaps you really do believe a million monkeys banging on keyboards would eventually create Shakespeare, if so the ontological status of existence is reduced to mere statistical probability in your mind, anything and everything will eventually happen given enough time and iteration. That makes me sad for you. Btw this is the argument Feynman was making about quantum phenomena: what is "really going on" is irrelevant, how can I construct a circuit such that quantum entanglements(which do happen, but which cannot be adequately explained) don't prevent my circuit from functioning. He translated a philosophical question "what is really going on" into an engineering question, given that with a high enough frequency, and enough current, quantum phenomena will render my circuit useless, so how can I design around it.
So what? Your assertion is a variation of the tiger repellent rock. It's very hard to prove something would have happened anyway. That requires a control group. We don't have that luxury.
Nope, wrong again. What I am saying has nothing to do with me confusing correlation with causation, one might argue that language causes such confusion and I might cede such, but I am not really interested in causation, rather that such happened. You my friend are the one who has argued over and over again that "something would have happened anyway", not me. My point is actually rather simple: the technological advances that did occur in the wake of Apollo program, would not have happened without the Apollo project. Now before you scream at the screen: "but that's confusing correlation with causation, that's my point!", hold on and take a deep breath. I am not saying the Apollo program caused all of those technological advances, or any single one of them in particular(although I imagine the Apollo program did directly "cause", I would rather say occasioned, some specific technological advances.) What I have been saying all along is that without the incredible sums of money invested in R&D by US taxpayers in the name of the Apollo program these(which? the ones which you believe I have falsely attributed to the Apollo program) technological advances would not have occurred.
How can I know that? Well partly because the word "advances" already implies causation by seeing one thing as something which follows on the heals of something else, that is literally what the word "advance" means, so an advancement in a given technology, means a logical progression from that which came earlier to that which came later. But also partly because technological advances are not random, they are directed and this direction is usually, but not always, one in which that which is good for one specific thing is rendered better by becoming more generic, hence good for more specific things. Let me give you an example. I can make a circuit out of vacuum tubes, I can also make one out of transistors, I can even make one out integrated circuits. Yet know one in the world ever developed transistors prior to vacuum tubes, or integrated circuits prior to transistors. One represents and advancement over the previous one. This is not happenstance. Now does this mean that vacuum tubes caused transistors to be developed? nope. However every single technological advancement ever made implies causation, otherwise we would simply call such technological change. I don't have to confuse correlation with causation, causation already implies correlation, even though we obscure "something being related with something else" by sticking an extra "r" in correlation, which is btw syntactically absurd, as if the ordering of things was utterly external(ie. un-related) to the things being ordered. Lots of things that can happen, simply don't, ever, however one would be challenged to name one(according to Parmenides, one shouldn't speak of that which isn't, otherwise one can't distinguish between that which is true and that which is false, ie. we tend not to name things that didn't happen, ever, which is not quite the same thing as never happened).
So to recap: too many butterflies, as Hiro Nakamura would say, and did say in http://www.nbc.com/heroes-rebo..., and one really shouldn't kill any butterflies.
The Apollo program did not cause much in and of itself, beyond you know rather insignificant things like man setting foot on the moon. But the inspiration and mass mobilization of millions of people, and the tremendous sums of money which flooded R&D in countless technologies occasioned a metric shitload of technological advancement which you and I are using right now to communicate with one another. Like monitors, mice, ram, integrated circuits, satellite communications (internet), microcomputers, hard-drives, etc(each of which were created in the time frame around the Apollo project, give or take a couple of years, most of which were created by corporations which had government funding, I know, I know just random stuff). A more nuanced understanding of causation understands that had I not slept with her(Mary), Tommy (you know the 6 year old red head) wouldn't be, I might have had a kid with Jill, but it could not have been Tommy. Without the Apollo program a lot technological advances that could have happened, simply would not have, ever, and any that did would have been different if for no other reason than due to a different chronological ordering. But yeah, you might just come back with "So what? same difference", and our little tete-a-tete would come to and end, neither of us the wiser.