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Comment Re: Eh (Score 1) 95

> The *worst* outcome is when the "laws" are secret or unknowable and enforced arbitrarily.

We are heading in that direction (if not there already).

There are a bajillion laws and "ignorance of the law is no excuse", also there are various regulatory agencies that make regulations which have the force of law.

There are so many laws that you are probably violating something that you don't know about, and some things you know about but figure no one will care about.

"Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime."

https://mic.com/articles/86797...

http://wayback.archive.org/web...

https://www.cato.org/events/te...

Comment Re:IL had free rides to all senior citizens 2008-2 (Score 1, Offtopic) 214

IL had free rides to all senior citizens 2008-2011 costs forced them to cut it to just low-income seniors.

No, there are no free rides. What you mean is, "Illinois decided to have taxpayers buy rides for certain people from 2008 to 2011" ... and ... "they couldn't get the taxpayers to pay even more, so they cut down the number of rides the taxpayers were buying to a more select group of those certain people."

Comment Re:The jobs will be mostly construction jobs. (Score 1) 318

Big firms are powerful, and the US had done everything possible to destroy the unions where were the only force that could have resisted them.

Decline in US labor pricing power due to globalization did that. And we would still have globalization even if the US erected trade barriers way back when. Here is the usual failure to understand basic causes and to attribute current failure to convenient scapegoats.

Comment Re: We knew this going in (Score 1) 557

Say that after the coming battle over the very existence of Social Security.

Why haven't Social Security payouts already been trimmed back by the necessary quarter or more to bring future liabilities in line with future revenue? It makes little sense to complain about fights over the existence of Social Security if no one has done anything for the long term viability of Social Security ever since its inception.

The dissolution of Social Security is inevitable unless one is willing to stabilize it fiscally.

Comment Re:We knew this going in (Score 1) 557

C) If I have to carry B)'s analogy any further, there's really no point in even responding.

Ultimately, this is where we go. It isn't the analogy that's the problem. It's the lack of evidence for the supposed seriousness of global warming, both the actual degree of warming and the cost of the supposed harm of global warming.

Poverty is such a serious threat because there is a well known correlation between poverty and high human fertility. And overpopulation already is a key driver of many big human problems like war, disease, habitat destruction, pollution, global warming, etc.

To claim that global warming is bigger than one of the biggest problems on Earth requires more than analogy, it requires evidence.

Comment Re:That can't be right (Score 1) 533

Food prices continue to be extremely low because population doesn't expand to drive prices up.

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My argument is that population expands to fit abundance.

How do you have both of those happening at the same time? Keep in mind that population growth in the US has remained at the 1% for three or four decades while coexisting with cheap food prices. There has been no population expanding to fit abundance going on.

Do you see population rapidly expanding to consume all of our employment opportunities?

No.

What if I told you that the labor force would slow its expansion during high unemployment?

And that's relevant how?

What if that actually happened from 2008 to 2012? What if the population somewhat dipped during that time?

I'll note that you refer to a four year period with a lot of other stuff going on. Meanwhile I referred to your own example which was a far longer period of time (at least a century) which doesn't show that effect. And we also can compare countries world-wide and not see that effect. You just cherry picked a brief span of time.

You haven't provided any argument that says that expanding beyond our means would not cause population to slow its growth, while I have shown good reasoning that it does and demonstrated the effect actually occurring during times when poverty (and thus individual access to means) has increased.

And I don't have to. We aren't expanding beyond our means. This is not a relevant scenario.

The developed world, which are the countries with by far the most abundant food production, have the lowest fertility. One doesn't have to go far to explain why. There are two well known effects that cause this situation: first, women in the workplace mean lower fertility; and second, higher survival rates of children to adulthood mean lower fertility.

Comment Re:That can't be right (Score 1) 533

Food happens to be a relatable tangible good. I've had trouble with people claiming things like Netflix or cellular communication aren't "making things" and that the US doesn't "make things" because anything that's not concrete isn't real. If people are going to point at an increase in medical care, high-speed internet availability, and personal entertainment services and call that "not really making anything" to argue that the economy is failing and the US has collapsed, I'm going to have to start pointing at things that people can actually relate to.

So what does that have to do with your Malthusian stuff? I'm not those people with the above argument so this post seems quite irrelevant to me.

Comment Re:That can't be right (Score 1) 533

That's only because there is massive government interference in the markets to keep them low.

Not in the US at least. Most such subsidies increase the cost of food.

The suppression of food prices leads to other things being more expensive, including and especially what it costs to start new businesses and jobs. Less job prospects means people feel less secure to have more kids.

It's just not that big an effect. There's a lot of other stuff that has way more effect on employment such as social safety net costs, adversarial relationship with regulators, etc.

Labor participation is down, remember? You can't have it both ways saying how the economy is doing worse because participation is down but then claim we should be having more population growth because things are doing great.

"Doing great" is not a bit you set for your whole economy. For example, the US economy is quite good at producing food (which is a bluefoxlucid obsession). It's not so good at producing jobs in a job-hostile environment. There is no contradiction here.

Comment Re:That can't be right (Score 1) 533

The obvious rebuttal here is that food prices continue to be extremely low for the developed world. There's not going to be an enormous change in fertility from minor changes in a minor cost.

Look, your whole argument is a combination of circular reasoning and ignoring reality. It's just not happening. You need a new model.

Comment Re:worst ones (Score 1) 359

1) Enough tax money to pay for many independent news agencies at various levels, local, state, etc.

If it's paid for with tax money, it's not independent. Everything else you mentioned is window dressing and easily worked around. Let us also note here that if 3845 accredited news agencies say Trump is a liar and Fox News doesn't, then a lot of people are going to believe Fox News.

Sorry, but there's a great deal of magic thinking here. Government, like any large, unaccountable bureaucracy would readily subvert such a massive program. As I see it, the biggest difference between today and such an alternative is that far less of my money is being squandered on bad media today.

Comment Re:whew. (Score 3, Informative) 83

Trump is too busy starting a war with China by talking to Taiwan.

Yeah, that's the last straw. Taking a congratulatory phone call from a foreign leader is totally going to push China into attacking us. But the Obama administration selling Taiwan billions of dollars worth of sophisticated weapons systems, that's nothing that the Chinese would worry about.

Do you even listen to yourself?

Comment Re:Boko Haram? (Score 1) 331

the impacts of climate change were already factors in the conflicts driving a current crisis of migration into Europe, having been linked to the Arab Spring, the war in Syria and the Boko Haram terrorist insurgency

Boko Haram's name, translated, means "Western/Non-Islamic Education Is A Sin." They kill and rape in the name of that message. TFS directly links Boko Haram's insurgency to climate change.

It is a read hearing

The term you're looking for is "red herring." Red, the color, and herring, the fish. It comes from a technique used in training and testing fox hounds, to see if they can be too easily distracted.

So you're right, but only by accident, for the wrong reasons. The summary is trying to distract you from the evils of groups like Boko Haram by somehow making their willingness to slaughter villages and take hundreds of young girls into the jungle where they are then sold off as sex slaves somehow about climate change, rather than about the very reasons they plainly state that they do those exact things. People like you who try to tell those Africans that they're too dumb to know what they're saying, and that it's really the fault of climate change that they're murdering and raping their way through areas they're trying to convert to Islam ... people who trot that crap out are the worst sort of patronizing, condescending, smug racists one ever comes across. Quick! Absolve them of their ideology and actions because they're too simple, as a people, to realize that it's climate change and not the culture they're embracing that causes them to murder, torture, and rape! Whew, dodged a bullet there - wouldn't want to ever judge anybody, because every world view is equally valid, unless you're from a western democracy, in which case you're evil because climate change. Except that very dismissal judges them as too mentally inferior to resist murdering and raping, because ... climate change.

Which "smooth talk" is it that you think is somehow more persuasive in the context of climate change that makes someone who would otherwise not murder a girl's family in front of her eyes before assigning her to a rape camp ... suddenly change their world view and decide that's the right way to be? What would it take YOU to be convinced that's the way to gain political power? Or are you saying you, personally, could not be convinced to think that's OK, but those people in Africa are somehow by disposition more easily persuaded to take up that way of life, especially because Climate Change?

Comment Re: hazardous processes (Score 1) 302

Yes, of course, they must be idiots.

Oh look, another slashdot poster who has never heard of conflict of interest or adversarial debate.

A little increase would 'only' kill a few tens of thousands of people.

Or actually help tens of thousands live longer (radiation hormesis) . That's possible too especially given the complete lack of evidence for your claims.

But no, here comes a 'khallow' stating that all those experts incorrectly interpret research

You do recall I already found one example in your linksv where they did just that?

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