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Comment Apple asks users to copy-paste into a terminal (Score 1) 19

If someone can’t type a long command into a terminal without typos, they probably should not be using a terminal for anything other than basic commands anyway.

The funny thing is that Apple sometimes asks users to copy-paste a string they provide into a terminal. For example when creating a flash drive with an installable version of macOS.

Comment Re:Macs are closed, like NUC, which helps reliabil (Score 1) 174

I suspect Windows supporters will claim Mac users are less intelligent, ...

Nope. They'll point out that Macs are typically closed boxes where Apple has total control, and supplies all the drivers. Anything the user adds will be USB, thunderbolt, or HDMI. Yes they will. And I'll point out that I want my computer to work. I don't buy computers to fix problems inherent in the paradigm. I do want the company to write and supply functional drivers.

Since the next move the'll make is the claim of how expensive Macs are, I'll point out that my burn rate, fixing screwed up Windows machines, far, far exceeds any monetary saving claims. That cost effective Windows machine suddenly cost then 5-10 times the cost of the minimally cheaper device. I'm here to do my work. Figuring out why a Windows machine needs constant fixing is not good for productivity

Open Macs experienced the same problems as Windows. And closed Windows boxes (like NUC) experience the same reliability as Macs.

The Mac advantage is that they moved away from open configurations. The last open Mac, the Pro, has been dropped.

My desk has a Mac mini and an Intel NUC. They are equally reliable.

Comment Re:Diff observations, but SW same, HW different (Score 1) 174

No argument about default configurations being a pain on Windows. But that is something separate from OS qualify, crashes, etc.

I can't support that, let's assume Windows is a quality OS, if they want to show off that quality, you need to show it off, not leave it to some end user to configure, tweak, adjust, enforce, and then see the hidden quality.

It's consumer desktop vs server. Most of the annoyance is trying to monazite the user.

When you get to servers, it's a different story, and complaints mostly boil down to what platform people learned first. The Linux centric bitch about Windows. The Windows centric bitch about Linux.

That's not my concern, if hardware problems are causing OS level problems, ...

It's not the crappy hardware itself, it's the crappy drivers that supports it that cause the crashes or flakiness. In particular, in Linux in this Dell laptop case.

... the OS just isn't ready for mainstream deployment.

Again, in this case, it was NOT Windows having the problem, it was Linux. Both OS are vulnerable to flaky drivers.

Comment Re:Windows and Linux both fine, its 3rd party driv (Score 2) 174

Hey, believe it or not, that is actually the OS crashing. The crash might occur in the driver, but it's still the OS crashing.

Not when its a 3rd party driver.

A distinction with absolutely no difference.

Nope. With respect to Windows vs Linux vs Mac crashes, higher Windows numbers are a result of 3rd party software. Linux and Mac have an advantage of being unsupported by a lot of crappy hardware/software.

I get it - Windows can never fail

Nope. Never said that. I said that on the exact same high quality hardware with 3rd party drivers from highly reputable sources, Windows and Linux are both highly reliable.

Meantime, you have a computer that crashed for some reason, and you have to deal with it.

Not when I get to pick the computer.

Tell your customer it isn't Windows fault, that will not likely make a difference.

Semantics. In this discussion among the technically inclined we are talking about crashes. Note article title. The notion that Windows is inherently worse than Linux is an urban myth.

Comment Re:Nope. Server hardware runs both very well. (Score 2) 174

Google Windows 11 is a disaster and find out how everyone is wrong.

Here's your problem.

There is your problem above. While you focus on a monovariant, that for some reason, the only problem is drivers.

The topic is crashes, in case you haven't noticed the article title. Guess what it usually responsible for crashes, Windows, Linux, and Mac?

And if all the problems are the users fault, they can migrate to an OS where they don't cause all those problems.

Now you are getting to the real problem. People favor what they already know, and foolishly try to replicate the ways of one platform on another. They fight the platform. Problems result.

Comment Re: Windows and Linux both fine, its 3rd party dri (Score 1) 174

Its 3rd party drivers? And anti virus programs And anti malware programs Both often worse for stability than the viruses Then various other endpoint protection tools that hack into the kernel (and take down all the airports in the process) It is the Windows design in the endâ¦

Not really. Like drivers, antivirus/antimalware can be done poorly too. My windows boot is as stable as my Linux boot, and I've been running antivirus for decades. And Linux is just as vulnerable to poorly written kernel level software Linux being someone ignore by hardware and software vendors helps, like with Apple, less 3rd party software to screw things up.

Comment Macs are closed, like NUC, which helps reliability (Score 1) 174

I suspect Windows supporters will claim Mac users are less intelligent, ...

Nope. They'll point out that Macs are typically closed boxes where Apple has total control, and supplies all the drivers. Anything the user adds will be USB, thunderbolt, or HDMI.

Pretty much like an Intel or ASUS NUC. The NUC being pretty reliable too as a result.

Comment Re:Windows and Linux both fine, its 3rd party driv (Score 1) 174

Hey, believe it or not, that is actually the OS crashing. The crash might occur in the driver, but it's still the OS crashing.

Not when its a 3rd party driver.

These driver crashes on Windows typically lead to having to reinstall/"repair" Windows.

So your solution is removing the 3rd party driver and either not supporting the hardware or using a Microsoft driver. :-)

Comment Re:A fair number of considerations... (Score 1) 174

The only 3rd party driver I can remember ever having used for Linux is nvidia ..

The one truly flaky PC I had was not DIY, it was a school supplied Dell laptop. And it was flakier under Linux than Windows. Dell used lots of iffy parts presumably from the lower cost bidders and got what they paid for. On this Dell laptop the real problem under Linux was wifi.

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