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Comment Re:government regulations (Score 1) 333

I don't know how it works in the USA, but in the UK if a store sells something that isn't what it claims to be (brand-name or not), the customer's contract is with the store and the store is liable. If the store was, in turn, defrauded by a supplier, the store can go after the supplier to recover whatever damages they had to pay the customer, plus legal costs, damages for loss of goodwill, and anything else they can throw at them.

The customer does have the option of taking the issue up with the supplier, but taking it up with the store saves the trouble of the customer having to work out where, in a supply chain that's probably invisible to them, the fraud took place.

Comment Re:Well duh.... (Score 1) 609

Yes, Norway is doing fine outside the EU. Mind you, Norway is in the EEA, so it is still subject to many EU rules, including free movement of people (having to be part of the Shengen area). I'm not sure that's quite what those pushing for a hard Brexit would want.

And that's the problem. Leave the EU? Well, fine - possibly. Leave on what basis? A Norway-style arrangement? A Switzerland-style one? A Canadian-style one? A basic WTO one? The majority in the referendum said they wanted something on that spectrum, but didn't say what (because there was no way to). Many of those who prefer remain would be content to leave with an arrangement like Norway's or Switzerland's, but those favouring a "hard Brexit" try to suppress any such discussion.

And actually, the UK wasn't doing particularly well before we joined the EU. We had economic growth, yes, but we were falling way behind our main competitors. That's pretty much why we joined.

Comment Re:Well duh.... (Score 1) 609

The 4% split is precisely what the leave campaigners said would be "unfinished business" (and remember the leave supporter who started an online petition for a second referendum before the vote was in?)

"Demanding they get most of what they want if they had lost the vote" is a bit less than the leave campaigners said they would do: they said they'd continue to demand all of what they want. The reaction would be pretty much the same as we have with the present situation: a pile of people cheering them on, a pile of people telling them to get over it, and a government running around like headless chickens in search of a viable plan.

Comment Re:Huh who knew? (Score 1) 609

Once Article 50 is invoked, there is no mechanism to undo it, and so the UK would be out of the UK no later than two years after its invocation. If there a mechanism for the UK to say, "We've not managed to negotiate acceptable conditions, so we're staying after all" then there would be no need to bring Article 50 before Parliament, but absent such a mechanism, invoking Article 50 is (delayed) nullification of the EEC act.

Comment Re:Good (Score 1) 609

This is good for all those people who voted for Brexit so they could take back democracy; they have actually taken back democracy.

It's not so good for all those people who only saidthey wanted Brexit so they could take back democracy, because now we can see they don't actually want democracy at all.

Comment Re:Well duh.... (Score 1) 609

The indication Parliament got from the referendum was that the country is very nearly equally split on the issue (before the referendum, Nigel Farage (a - no, the - leading exit campaigner) said that a 48%/52% split would be "unfinished business", and he was right (it's just that he thought at the time the split would go against him). No political party serious about election or re-election wants to throw away 48% of the votes of the portion of the electorate that turns up at polling stations much more than they want to throw away 52% of it. That's why most of the realists in government will be frantically scrabbling around for a compromise that leaves everyone just a bit disappointed rather than leaving roughly half of the voters livid. Such a compromise is far from easy to find, and this legal ruling does at least buy time.

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