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Comment This is the third one of the comments to be modded (Score 1) 337

+5. And it should be self evident to anyone reading this that the ruling class don't need customers. They'll do what France did: Create a small aristocracy to perpetuate the system, a (very slightly) larger group of technocrats to keep the machines running (especially the military drones) and the remaining 95% of civilization will live in abject and horrifying poverty. They'll do this because money is power, and power feels _good_. And the worst thing is we're giving it all to them on a silver platter.

Comment Ask Apple (Score 1) 337

They have fewer customers than MIcrosoft but are much, much more profitable. You can do just fine thank you selling a $2000 PC instead of a $500 one.

And the ruling calss don't need customers when they can claim everything for themselves. The 99% will fall over themselves backward to get a piece of the scraps. They'll be the new kings, deciding who lives and who dies based on who gets to work for them (and who gets food, shelter, health care, etc). And they'll have an automated military to enforce their will. This isn't a hard thing to grasp. You just have to think like a ruler and not like an employee.

Comment They don't need customers (Score 1) 337

you're thinking like an employee, not a member of the ruling class. If 1% of the population claims 90% of the wealth then the remaining 99% will fall over themselves backwards to get a little of it.

Money is always about power. It's about making people do things you want. Put another way, what good is being rich if you can't threaten people with poverty?

Comment Who's gonna pay for it? (Score 1) 337

Unless you can answer that question in a way that feels right to the electorate then you're gonna lose out in the basic income debate. Nobody, and I mean nobody, likes the idea of having their money taken away from them and given to somebody else. Especially by force (which is what you're doing). The closest to an argument I've heard is we'll tax factory output instead of income, but that doesn't work. You'll be accused of seizing factories ala Communism.

If we're ever going to see socialism work in the long term we need to come up with a once sentence answer to "Who's gonna pay for it?" that passes the gut test. Elections are won on feelings. Donald Trump just proved that.

Comment In my experience (Score 1) 126

tech internships are an end run around visa limitations, and that would explain the pay disparity more than anything else. I keep seeing this patter. The company brings in somebody from India on a student visa for an Internship. The "student" already knows how to do the job. There's no training involved, which is the point. The company gets a worker that needs zero training.

Back in my day before the visa programs we used to call people who did useful work 'employees' and they were paid as such...

Comment Sucks for kids (Score 1) 86

being watched by your parents in near real time. I'm a pretty lazy parent (single father for a variety of reasons, none of them good) so I wasn't very protective. The upshot to this is my kid doesn't have a lot to rebel against besides her old man's crap job. So instead of wasting her time rebelling against them 'man' she's focused on studying so as to avoid the mistakes I made, most of which she can see the results of through observation rather than by me hammering them into her skull.

Comment Good. (Score 3, Insightful) 353

A lot of /.ers will say if you're dumb enough to fall for fake news that's your problem. You're ignoring what happens to millions of people's brains as they age. Not everyone has their full mental facilities in their 50s, 60s and 70s. Unless you're going to start administering tests to decide who gets to vote (and please God, let /.ers be smart enough to know why that's a bad idea) then the problem of fake news needs to be faced head on.

Comment You're missing the point (Score 1) 580

they should have long since denounced it and took a firm position that they would not help Trump build the registry. This shouldn't even be a story. It's like asking if we should round up all the Jews. It's not something you 'just ask', and if anyone does the answer should be: "No, and what the hell is wrong with you?"

Comment I wonder if Trump's gonna repeal it (Score 2) 85

I almost think this is a trap (along with that new law putting E85 into cars). It's a damned if you do/damned if you don't. On the one hand it's exactly the kind of law Trump opposes (he wants to expand liable law and make a more UK-like system over here) but OTOH it's a very popular law with billions of dollars behind it (Yelp, Google, Uber, Amazon. Basically any web based company that deals in information).

Comment There's two problems with switching our tax base (Score 1) 463

over to the factories.

1. What do you do in the meantime while the job losses are going on?

2. Once all that wealth and power has concentrated into the hands of the factory owners how do we get them to give it up? They're going to have automatic guns attached to their drones and no compunction about using them. In the past revolutions happened because even the military elite turned against the ruling class. That won't happen when the military elite is 5 guys watching over the drones and another 20 keeping them running...

Basically we need to do something now before it all goes to shit and we enter a 1000 year dark age, but I can't figure out how to get people to be willing to solve problems before they happen :(.

Comment Overpopulation will solve itself (Score 2) 463

via birth control if we let it. Look at Japan and the Netherlands. If anything under population will be a problem (not enough youngins to take care of the old farts).

That''s all solvable too, but I'm not sure we can keep a lid on the Christians and their Anti-Birth Control crusades. We just put a certifiable nutter into the VP slot. Basically, what happens next is entirely dependent on whether we can keep our religious minority from throwing human civilization under a bus like they did for a thousand years during the Dark Ages.

Comment Why should I have to pay (Score 1) 463

so you can sit around and not work? What gives you the right to take my money to support somebody else? Maybe I don't want to give up my hard earned cash?

Unless you can answer those questions you're not going to get anywhere with post scarcity socialism. I've got answers, but none of them feel good. They're all very reasonable and logical answers and they all make people feel bad. Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton and the American left have been trying to figure out what to do about that sentimentality for years and haven't come up with an answer. I haven't heard anyone on /. give me one either, and I've been asking on every one of these threads...

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