Except... SpaceX don't actually get any grants at all from the US government. They do get contracts from NASA, and SpaceForce to launch things occasionally, but they're by far the minority of their revenue. SpaceX's revenue breaks down as:

Starlink: $11.4bn
Launches for non government entities: $3.0bn (est)
Launches for NASA: $1.2bn (est)
Launches for Space Force: $1.8bn
xAI/Other: $1.3bn

It's known that the 3.0 and 1.2 sum to 4.2, and the rough contract values for NASA's launches are known, but they're not nailed down. It's likely that about $200mn of that "other" is NASA paying SpaceX to develop the HLS.

We give a shit, because once they have a monopoly on the manufacturing the price is going to get jacked up, and no anti-competition court is going to be able to do jack shit about it.

Okay, maybe, but... my MacBook Pro (M5 Max) can run Qwen 3.8 27b with 162k context window at 65 tokens per second. So your $2500 system is aproximately half the speed of a MacBook Pro. A MacStudio with 128GB of RAM and an M5 ultra costs $5000 - twice as much as your system, but would run it at somewhere around 120-130 tokens per second.

Well, since you seem to know everything about it, lets assume you do, and look at how much your proposed system would cost...

Lets see what GPUs have ever shipped with 32GB of RAM...
the 5090...

oh... that's it. So... absolutely no "old GPUs with 32GB of RAM" are available.

Well, lets assume you meant 24GB for the sake of it, what GPUs shipped with that?
The 4090, the 3090, the A5000, the 4500, and the 7900. We're going to need 6 of them to get past 128GB. Lets be kind and call it 5, because the mac is going to use *some* of its 128GB for the CPU. How much do they cost?

- The 4090 with 24GB of RAM... $4500 on eBay, so that's $22500 in GPUs.
- The 3090 with 24GB of RAM... $1500 on eBay, so that's $7500 in GPUs.
- The A5000... $2500 each on eBay, so that's $12500 in GPUs.
- The 4500 with 24GB... $2200 on eBay, so that's $11000 in GPUs.
- The 7900 with 24GB.... $1200 on eBay, so that's $6000 in GPUs.

So... nope... it's not cheeper to do it that way. You litterally can't even buy the GPUs for that much, let alone the motherboard capable of running 5 GPUs with reasonable amounts of PCIe bandwidth each.

It wouldnâ(TM)t surprise me. Claude has been trying to gaslight me into believing that a bug it was finding hard to fix didnâ(TM)t actually exist.

Well, assuming these are all independent events. It could for example be that they all depend on some shared component at some point, and thereâ(TM)s some brain dead configuration in there that updated to a broken version on live systems. I know, Iâ(TM)m grasping at straws. In reality, the possibility of an attack seems much more likely, but itâ(TM)s possible it was all self inflicted.

Yeh, except then youâ(TM)re paying a bandwidth penalty for accessing ram over PCIe or SLI, and a bandwidth penalty for having old GPUs, and a performance penalty for having GPUs that arenâ(TM)t as fast, or as flexible. So the result overall is not capable of doing this. When you use multiple GPUs to run AI, you load the whole model onto each GPU, you donâ(TM)t split it across GPUs, because the entire game is about having all the bandwidth available.

I mean, if you like, we can loosen the requirements and you can look for a desktop. Then the mac costs $5099. I'm not sure you're going to get a GPU with 128GB for that much, let alone the whole system.

I mean, if youâ(TM)re running AIs, youâ(TM)re gonna want 128GB at least, and a fast GPU. At that point, it being a MacBook Pro isnâ(TM)t going to make much difference. Itâ(TM)s gonna cost $7000, which I grant you is a lot of money, however⦠now find me another laptop with a GPU around the performance of the laptop 5080, and 128GB of RAM the GPU can access.

I somewhat disagree. They developed an engine using somewhat different building blocks. The first iteration of their design works on only one model, but guess what - a lot of the blocks will transfer to other AIs. Iâ(TM)d bet that this can be expanded to run at least other versions of Qwen, and plausibly other LLMs.

Ultimately, all software is about trade offs, and here theyâ(TM)ve made a somewhat different trade from others, but given how popular high end Apple silicon devices are becoming for running AIs, it doesnâ(TM)t seem unreasonable to see if you can make big gains like this for categories of models.

Hahaha, He's expressed his support of Tommy Robinson, who founded the English Defence League. The EDL is litterally a fascist organisation. He complains that Britain is no longer full of native brits, and went on to define "native Brit" to mean "white". He argued that Romani's in Denmark should be shot as you would wolves.

Sorry, but since when is literal fascism and overt racism the position of an "ordinary liberal"?

I would rather a 3 year wait, and a show that's high quality than a 1 year wait for another round of trash. As a brit, I find it hilarious that you guys think 10 shows is a *short* season. I get that you used to have the year divided in two and basically 20-26 shows a season in the past, but it just doesn't make sense. You can't have a show that actually has a cohesive plot, that every episode advances, and also have 22 shows between major events happening.

I'd generally agree with you, but not in the case of AppleTV. Their hit rate has been higher than most, and they haven't gone off cancelling things that people loved. For example, a recent survey said Apple's rate of a show being good, outstanding or exceptional was 50.8%, while Paramount's was 41%, Hulu's 40%, Max's 25%, Disney's 24%, Netflix's 20%, and Amazon's 14%. Their top hits have been:

- Ted Lasso
- Severance
- Silo
- Pluribus
- For All Mankind
- Slow Horses
- The Morning Show
- Murder Bot
- The Studio

every one of which is still running.

Whatâ(TM)s odd to me is that the Brits already have a solution to this, theyâ(TM)re just not deploying it. British councils *love* giving people 63 wheely bins for them to sort increasingly difficult to identify waste into. Why not just give out a container for people to put waste batteries/battery containing devices in? Alternatively, do the same as most councils do with glass, and put a big metal box in a fairly central location to contain them until the bin men come and empty it?

You have no clue if you think they dont. The M5 max GPU is roughly as fast as a laptop 5080. If you want either pro apps, or AI ability, the M5 isnâ(TM)t beaten by anything at all.