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Comment Re:Domain modelling [Re:Shying away from OOP(s)] (Score 1) 671

you don't know what the fuck OO is in the first place

Nobody agrees on the definition or formal characteristics.

And nobody agrees on who gets to decide the definition. There is no standards body who defines what OO is. YOU are not it.

Every tool has a proper place and use, and making relative value judgements between them is something fuckwits do when they only know how to use one thing.

I've mentioned multiple times I do choose to use it to some degree. I've found practical utility for it under certain circumstances. So what is this "one thing"?

how you've rooted out this terrible OO hoax perpetrated on the industry

Well, okay, "hoax" is possibly a little harsh, but I do believe that OO-domain-modeling was thrust on the industry by hucksters wanting to sell books and consulting services; and millions, if not billions were spent chasing this false dream.

The primary focus of these hucksters was in domain modeling. Therefore, other than a small blurb, I didn't used to make much of a distinction between "OO" and "OO domain modelling".

A bigger distinction is made now in the industry because practical experience and failures taught many that domain modeling is NOT where OO shines. I know you disagree that domain modeling was the main stated selling point of OO, but we'll just have to let that disagreement stand (unless somebody can present reliable surveys of beliefs).

Why does it matter to you anyhow? It's water under the bridge. I'm not understanding your complaint. It appears you want to make this all about me instead of OO. That's why you appear to be a troll. Non-trolls talk about the subject at hand. Say something about OO and than back your claim with evidence: that's not asking too much.

You seem to agree there that scientifically comparing the utility of software engineering paradigms/techniques is either a gray art or requires resources not yet committed by anybody. Good, that part is mostly settled then.

Comment Re:No more updates... (Score 1) 392

MS seems to have decided that they have the rights to:
1) Monitor all windows uses, without consent;
2) Force any software changes they wish, overriding our own settings or expressed wishes;
3) Turn windows into adware by pushing ads out to windows users - probably related to point 1;

They absolutely DO have these rights (and they DO have consent: it's in the EULA you agreed to and which has the force of law as proven in court cases). If you don't agree with these terms, then it's your job as the customer to find a better vendor.

My primary OS now is Linux, installed on multiple computers, and it would continue to be regularly updated. MS has made dumping their OS one of the easiest decisions to make.

Too bad all MS users aren't as smart as you; most of them will just bend over and take it.

Comment Re:Don't use Microsoft (Score 1) 392

Just imagine 100 applications and 70,000 computers all with different needs filled with very old quirky shit taped up where customers still demand we use IE 6 for much of it. We have a hack to get it to work under Windows 7 with Citrix. These patches break TLS 1.0 which is insecure yes, but our clients can not run without it!

Explain how we can move to Linux and use active directory and group policy and security auditing and SCCM to push applications that are all win32 based in such an environment?

I'm not sure how you're going to succeed in getting that mess to work reliably on Windows 10, much less Linux.

With the situation that bad, you need to go back to those vendors and demand better software (esp. Linux versions). If they can't deliver, it's time to migrate to new vendors who can. We can blame MS for a lot of stuff, but I don't really see how we can blame them for shitty 3rd-party software vendors requiring IE6 for their "enterprise" application to work. The blame rightly goes to the customer for selecting this crap, and then not keeping on top of things and making sure mission-critical applications will continue to work on newer OSes, and not switching to vendors who have better products (or just building your own in-house if the ISVs are this bad).

Comment Re:If you don't trust the vendor ... (Score 1) 392

When MS released the Modern/Metro interface they got ripped, big time. When Linux screwed up with KDE 4/Gnome 3 fiascos, a LOT (far too many) of FOSS advocates were quick to make every excuse in the book. "Oh, it's OK because it is Linux." A lot of that happened right here on /.

Oh, BS. I remember it quite differently: there was no end to the bitching and complaining about both KDE4 and Gnome3, and for good reason too. Gnome3 was so disliked that it directly spawned not one, but two new DEs: MATE and Cinnamon, because people were so mad about it and wanted Gnome2 (or something close to it) back. KDE4 was a disaster (though many blame part of it on distros making it the main KDE version even though KDE themselves said it wasn't ready for primetime use) that many people abandoned KDE and never came back. Both these fiascos were hugely controversial and generated a lot of ill feelings.

However this is probably the first time ever, that I've heard the FOSS community really get upset, I mean upset at Linux itself, not at MS. Not that it seems to be doing much to stop (or redirect) the systemd juggernaut.

Then you're either a liar or you haven't been paying attention. Gnome3 and KDE4.0 both caused just as much upset as systemd, if not more so (I'm leaning towards more so, because regular users notice their DE a whole lot more than they notice their init system). Personally, it sounds like you're a liar who's on the anti-systemd bandwagon and is trying to twist things there to get more people on your side.

Comment Re:You wouldn't know it was declining here.... (Score 1) 176

It wasn't just there...at major sites all over town all last weekend, I saw a surprisingly LARGE amount of people out all times of day and especially late night playing it...

Am I the only one who's reminded of the ST:TNG episode about Riker finding the head-mounted video game on Risa and the whole crew of the Enterprise becoming addicted to it?

Comment Re:How hard is it to find emails? (Score 1) 482

Anyone who has ever sent an email knows there are at least 2 copies. One on the sender's account. One on the recipient's. If anyone else is CC'd, then they have a copy too. Did anyone believe when she 'wiped her server' (even without a cloth), that they all disappeared forever?

I've read that the "regular" office server croaked and the backups were fucked. Hillary and Colin were correct about one thing: gov't IT sucks.

I tried to find links to post about it, but the name-space is too flooded with articles about H's server now. I'll keep looking...

Comment Context of "what diff does it make" (Score 1) 482

Conservative spinners keep spinning the "What difference does it make" comment. Here's more detail and quotes:

http://www.politifact.com/trut...

My interpretation was that she was saying a category classification of "terror" versus "non-terror" was a premature and/or irrelevant question JUST right after the attacks had taken place. The terror/protest dichotomy was something the news cycle created, and is possibly useless (especially being it was likely a combination of both: a smaller plan expanded by the existence of protesters).

But, pundits frame it as a summary dismissal of the question.

Comment Trolls for Drama Prison [Re:Hillary for prison!] (Score 1) 482

She's even gone as far to blame a black man for telling her to do what she did.

I don't know that's an accurate way to describe it. The truth may be more nuanced:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/co...

It appears he did make a general recommendation related to an outside account, but perhaps Clinton's aides over-spun it, not necessarily Hillary herself.

She has been legally and politically pressured to describe in detail why she didn't use the gov't system, and recommendations from Powell would be a legitimate part of that.

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